Start time and location for trains

[A-Train]

First off, I'm really enjoying the game.

I'm working on a recreation of the Tokyo rail system.

Is there any plan in the works to auto-deploy trains to their start station at their start time without stopping en-route? That process is really tedious.

[Weird and Wry]

Fixed timetables and the improved train schedules will allow for this, but always by setting the correct destination and times, not by teleporting the train.

[juliejayne]

Originally posted by Weird and Wry:

Fixed timetables and the improved train schedules will allow for this, but always by setting the correct destination and times, not by teleporting the train.

How about a per Line "end of day/return to depot" rather than having to set each train.

[A-Train]

Originally posted by Weird and Wry:

Fixed timetables and the improved train schedules will allow for this, but always by setting the correct destination and times, not by teleporting the train.

My point is I have to schedule 12 trains departing 2 depots to arrive at 12 different platforms on the south half of the Yamanote Line. If I could just say "Start time 0500" Tokyo Station platform C, that should be enough, since otherwise it is trial and error over and over.

Also, I agree with the idea of a final station at the end of the running day. Pax get off the train and it goes out of service.

Otherwise I'm trying to guess when the trail will go white between stations and I have to reimburse a bunch of ya-hoos who didn't know the train was going out of service at 0100 and got on anyway...

[juliejayne]

I have no issue with reimbursing the ya-hoos... rather that than compo for the layabouts sleeping on the station platform waiting for the first train of the day.

Starting in the morning from depots, is IMO accurate, except that I want more, less obtrusive "depots" i.e. storage sidings, where trains are just parked overnight. It might be a possibility that at End of Day the train heads to the nearest Parking siding and picks up the following day from there? Then they would just resume their schedule x hours later.

[ezzatam]

Originally posted by A-Train:

My point is I have to schedule 12 trains departing 2 depots to arrive at 12 different platforms on the south half of the Yamanote Line.

But why? They begin only from Osaki or Ikebukuro in real life.

[A-Train]

Originally posted by ezzatam:

Originally posted by A-Train:

My point is I have to schedule 12 trains departing 2 depots to arrive at 12 different platforms on the south half of the Yamanote Line.

But why? They begin only from Osaki or Ikebukuro in real life.

So the Yamanote line trains don't depot at Shinagawa? I haven't completed the loop to get to Ikebukuro yet. I have Shinjuku south around and up to Ueno. I do have a depot for the Keihin-Tohoku line at Osaki...

[ezzatam]

Originally posted by A-Train:

I do have a depot for the Keihin-Tohoku line at Osaki...

Just wait for timetables update and don't bother too much with depots for now. Keihin-Tohoku depot should be at Saitama once you get there.

[A-Train]

Originally posted by ezzatam:

Originally posted by A-Train:

I do have a depot for the Keihin-Tohoku line at Osaki...

Just wait for timetables update and don't bother too much with depots for now. Keihin-Tohoku depot should be at Saitama once you get there.

Awesome! Thanks for your assistance on this. I've been studying JR in and around Tokyo for two decades for a model project, but never gotten into the weeds of where depots are and schedules for the lines.

So far I have the Ginza subway line modeled (with a few stops removed because of the catchment areas overlapping), I have the Chuo line from Tokyo to Shinjuku, Keihen-Tohoku line from Ueno to Omori, and Yamanote south loop from Shinjuku to Ueno.

I am thinking I want to extend the Chuo line out west next, at least to Tachikawa. What do you think?

[ezzatam]

Originally posted by A-Train:

I am thinking I want to extend the Chuo line out west next, at least to Tachikawa. What do you think?

Sounds good, as it covers Nishi-Kokubunji for the Tokyo Mega Loop with Musashino Line. Good Luck.

[A-Train]

Originally posted by ezzatam:

Originally posted by A-Train:

I am thinking I want to extend the Chuo line out west next, at least to Tachikawa. What do you think?

Sounds good, as it covers Nishi-Kokubunji for the Tokyo Mega Loop with Musashino Line. Good Luck.

Yeah, I want to get out to Tachikawa so I can tie in the Ome line to Fussa Station and Yokota Air Base. That's where I rode trains into Tokyo when I was TDY from Okinawa. :)

[Peepeedik]

Originally posted by A-Train:

Awesome! Thanks for your assistance on this. I've been studying JR in and around Tokyo for two decades for a model project, but never gotten into the weeds of where depots are and schedules for the lines.

If you can read Japanese, there is a "List of Train Depots in Japan" on the Japanese Wikipedia, I'll link it here:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E8%BB%8A%E4%B8%A1%E5%9F%BA%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7

[A-Train]

Originally posted by Peepeedik:

Originally posted by A-Train:

Awesome! Thanks for your assistance on this. I've been studying JR in and around Tokyo for two decades for a model project, but never gotten into the weeds of where depots are and schedules for the lines.

If you can read Japanese, there is a "List of Train Depots in Japan" on the Japanese Wikipedia, I'll link it here:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E8%BB%8A%E4%B8%A1%E5%9F%BA%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7

Thanks, but it looks like they line depots are on the English Wikipedia pages for the lines, now that I'm looking for it... :)

[Peepeedik]

Originally posted by A-Train:

Thanks, but it looks like they line depots are on the English Wikipedia pages for the lines, now that I'm looking for it... :)

I don't use English wikipedia for this, but in the Japanese Wikipedia for the lines there's a line schematic thing with every station, signal station, cargo terminal, depot, bridges and tunnels, etc, just not drawn to scale. Then I reference these information and go on google maps to see where exactly they are. Honestly you can almost guess where most things are in game anyways since you can see the giant blank spot where the depot used to be.

[A-Train]

Originally posted by Peepeedik:

Originally posted by A-Train:

Thanks, but it looks like they line depots are on the English Wikipedia pages for the lines, now that I'm looking for it... :)

I don't use English wikipedia for this, but in the Japanese Wikipedia for the lines there's a line schematic thing with every station, signal station, cargo terminal, depot, bridges and tunnels, etc, just not drawn to scale. Then I reference these information and go on google maps to see where exactly they are. Honestly you can almost guess where most things are in game anyways since you can see the giant blank spot where the depot used to be.

That's what I'm doing. I just added the Tobu Kameido line into the system with a single Tobu 8000. Short line that ties into the Chuo-Sobu line at Kameido. Now I have to get trains scheduled on the Chuo extension out to Kokunbungi and then on to Tachikawa!

[Peepeedik]

Originally posted by A-Train:

That's what I'm doing. I just added the Tobu Kameido line into the system with a single Tobu 8000. Short line that ties into the Chuo-Sobu line at Kameido. Now I have to get trains scheduled on the Chuo extension out to Kokunbungi and then on to Tachikawa!

I have most of actual tokyo area done, keep in mind the population density lol. I set my spawn rate to 40% and am getting 1.4 million rides per day in Shinjuku alone, which is almost the real world level (3.5 million boarding + deboarding). And that's without having any of the med-long distance lines or the Shinkansen. I find most JR, subway and major private railways needs a headway of around 3 minutes combined, otherwise they get overcrowded.