Is SARD Anti Cheat Safe and Legit ?

[CrimZN]

I don’t want to reinstall if the Anti cheat is not credible.

[kaz]

so just encountered some speedhackers in EU asylum.

hahahahahahahahahahah only took 2 days to get bypassed

was i right or was i right?

[R A Z E R]

Originalmente postado por kaz:

so just encountered some speedhackers in EU asylum.

hahahahahahahahahahah only took 2 days to get bypassed

was i right or was i right?

So not only does the new anti cheat have little to no effect but you're also giving away access to your pc due to it being kernel, lol..

[CrimZN]

Originalmente postado por kaz:

so just encountered some speedhackers in EU asylum.

hahahahahahahahahahah only took 2 days to get bypassed

was i right or was i right?

Thnx for letting me know. Goodbye APB forever.

[Riddick]

Originalmente postado por kaz:

so just encountered some speedhackers in EU asylum.

hahahahahahahahahahah only took 2 days to get bypassed

was i right or was i right?

Its easy to bypass, its just collecting data for now. So lots of cheaters on alt accounts. Somebody was saying that its possible to now locate alt accounts and if one is banned, the other account goes with it. But we dont know.

[Lion]

I'm gonna be fully honest.
In my opinion I think its fishy. Here's a list why.

1. Website doesn't work and looks to be made in less than a week.

-At first glace it seems legit, but every link is broken, pictures on the site are also "Heavily pixelated" which seems off-putting including for tech professionals. Every link on their website leads you to their Internal server "localhost:4000/(Enter info here)" Which looks like their website was made yesterday.

2. Questionable Claims
61,750 cheats, bots, and hacks detected.
250,975 Accounts Monitored
8,211 bans.
And a 0.001% False ban rate.

--So that means .08 of the 8211 bans were wrongful bans. Don't know how you wrongfully banned .08 of a person.
--They know of 61,750 cheats but only banned 8211 accounts? That's a statistical anomaly. If you know of that many cheats, that means every cheater you banned has about 8 different cheat/hack/bots programs active at the same time on a single account.
---And 250,975 accounts monitored with a 4% ban rate? From 10+ games. A few of the games they claim to monitor are pulling 100,000-200,000+ players online. Games that also monthly bans of 10-20,000+ Once again, this seems wrong. Even basic knowledge of the field shows that cheater rates sit between 20%-30% on a average paid for title. Let alone a free to plays.

3. Support for older/unknown game titles and a lot of those games claim to be using different anticheats.
- Another massive red flag. A lot of these older titles that claim they don't use it.
-Lineage 2 Listed , says they use SmartGuard.
- Point Blank is using hackshield
-Silkroad Online also claims to be using a different anticheat.
- Aion also claims they use "Active anti-cheat."
The game "Soldier One" I can't even find online at all.
And Ragnarok also claims to use a different anticheat.
Magic to Masters isn't even out yet.
Blade and Soul say the use NCSoft anticheat.

lets play Occam's razor. Two cases here.

A: 10+ Companies are all lying about what Anti-cheat they're using and are all so crappy at updating their stuff, and also violating their own company polices and using anticheats that they themselves are also in the business of making. "Like NC SOFT".

B: They may or may not be lying.

[Ghostmantle]

the Anti cheat announcement brought in more players than the games seen since 2013, if they put all their focus on perfecting it then the game would easily average half those numbers, So many newbies got scared off by the gold tryhards and cheaters in the first 3 days. I do believe a ducttape solution would be teleporting every gold to a separate gold district no matter the skill level and let silvers and bronze fight it out and learn the game together. "Not every gold cheats, but most cheaters turn gold eventually"

[thru]

Originalmente postado por Ghostmantle:

the Anti cheat announcement brought in more players than the games seen since 2013, if they put all their focus on perfecting it then the game would easily average half those numbers, So many newbies got scared off by the gold tryhards and cheaters in the first 3 days. I do believe a ducttape solution would be teleporting every gold to a separate gold district no matter the skill level and let silvers and bronze fight it out and learn the game together. "Not every gold cheats, but most cheaters turn gold eventually"

this is a decent idea but cheaters and golds would eventually start deranking themselves just to have to not deal with cheaters or so that they can have insanely easy games

[Ghostmantle]

Which is completely fine, as they will easily pop gold again and get kicked out

[R A Z E R]

Originalmente postado por Ghostmantle:

the Anti cheat announcement brought in more players than the games seen since 2013, if they put all their focus on perfecting it then the game would easily average half those numbers, So many newbies got scared off by the gold tryhards and cheaters in the first 3 days. I do believe a ducttape solution would be teleporting every gold to a separate gold district no matter the skill level and let silvers and bronze fight it out and learn the game together. "Not every gold cheats, but most cheaters turn gold eventually"

This is how it used to be, before they changed matchmaking. Years ago, districts were based on threat level.. That you could only play in a bronze district if you were bronze, that you could only play in silver districts if you were silver or bronze.. And that golds could only play in golds... Which mostly ended up in people deranking themselves from gold to either silver or bronze.

There even used to be something that was called a "Admin roof" where admins were to send cheaters to, so that those cheaters could only play against other cheaters while admins killed them over and over before ended up being banned.. There is a video about it on YouTube..

They need to bring the admin roof back and do it that way, thing is that it requires active moderators.. Which is something that hasn't been a thing in forever by now..

[R A Z E R]

Originalmente postado por Lion:

I'm gonna be fully honest.
In my opinion I think its fishy. Here's a list why.

1. Website doesn't work and looks to be made in less than a week.

-At first glace it seems legit, but every link is broken, pictures on the site are also "Heavily pixelated" which seems off-putting including for tech professionals. Every link on their website leads you to their Internal server "localhost:4000/(Enter info here)" Which looks like their website was made yesterday.

2. Questionable Claims
61,750 cheats, bots, and hacks detected.
250,975 Accounts Monitored
8,211 bans.
And a 0.001% False ban rate.

--So that means .08 of the 8211 bans were wrongful bans. Don't know how you wrongfully banned .08 of a person.
--They know of 61,750 cheats but only banned 8211 accounts? That's a statistical anomaly. If you know of that many cheats, that means every cheater you banned has about 8 different cheat/hack/bots programs active at the same time on a single account.
---And 250,975 accounts monitored with a 4% ban rate? From 10+ games. A few of the games they claim to monitor are pulling 100,000-200,000+ players online. Games that also monthly bans of 10-20,000+ Once again, this seems wrong. Even basic knowledge of the field shows that cheater rates sit between 20%-30% on a average paid for title. Let alone a free to plays.

3. Support for older/unknown game titles and a lot of those games claim to be using different anticheats.
- Another massive red flag. A lot of these older titles that claim they don't use it.
-Lineage 2 Listed , says they use SmartGuard.
- Point Blank is using hackshield
-Silkroad Online also claims to be using a different anticheat.
- Aion also claims they use "Active anti-cheat."
The game "Soldier One" I can't even find online at all.
And Ragnarok also claims to use a different anticheat.
Magic to Masters isn't even out yet.
Blade and Soul say the use NCSoft anticheat.

lets play Occam's razor. Two cases here.

A: 10+ Companies are all lying about what Anti-cheat they're using and are all so crappy at updating their stuff, and also violating their own company polices and using anticheats that they themselves are also in the business of making. "Like NC SOFT".

B: They may or may not be lying.

After reading what SARD was, it was also questionable to me.. Hence why i'm split about playing or like i said somewhere else, that i would be retiring after 10 years..

I want cheaters to be banned, but there are other ways of doing so. As bad as EAC was considering they used a crappy free version, i would still trust that over some unknown anti cheat from some 3rd world country while it straight up gives access to my pc.

[Laurana]

Agreed, the new anti-cheat doesn't stop any of the old cheats. Still encountering people with aimbot, wallhack, speedhack, triggerbots and zero recoil no bloom hacks as well.

Why they wouldn't move to something like easy anti-cheat or something with a proven track record of being at least somewhat decent I don't know.

[R A Z E R]

Originalmente postado por Laurana:

Agreed, the new anti-cheat doesn't stop any of the old cheats. Still encountering people with aimbot, wallhack, speedhack, triggerbots and zero recoil no bloom hacks as well.

Why they wouldn't move to something like easy anti-cheat or something with a proven track record of being at least somewhat decent I don't know.

Probably because it's too expensive for them where as SARD is most likely just cheap..

[Laurana]

Originalmente postado por R A Z E R:

Originalmente postado por Laurana:

Agreed, the new anti-cheat doesn't stop any of the old cheats. Still encountering people with aimbot, wallhack, speedhack, triggerbots and zero recoil no bloom hacks as well.

Why they wouldn't move to something like easy anti-cheat or something with a proven track record of being at least somewhat decent I don't know.

Probably because it's too expensive for them where as SARD is most likely just cheap..

Yeah I pretty much guessed why they would. But buy cheap and buy twice i think the saying goes. Bought cheap and it's done absolutely nothing.

So really it's just wasted money.

[R A Z E R]

Originalmente postado por Laurana:

Originalmente postado por R A Z E R:

Probably because it's too expensive for them where as SARD is most likely just cheap..

Yeah I pretty much guessed why they would. But buy cheap and buy twice i think the saying goes. Bought cheap and it's done absolutely nothing.

So really it's just wasted money.

They were better off using the previous anti cheat, at least we knew that one didn't work... Should've added the new contacts in and just call it a day...

So not only is SARD useless, but like i said multiple times.. It also creates a back door in the very deepest layers of your pc where you essentially give access to some company in a eastern 3rd world country...

I'm still split but i'm leaning towards just calling it quits and stop playing APB entirely.. I'll take the time and money that i've spent on this game as my own loss..

[Metal]

From what I've heard this anti-cheat does nothing. Most if not all anti-cheats will never work anyway. They are never updated enough or complex enough to remain effective.

This game is dead. They had many chances to fix and revive it but it's been too long now.
Nor do they consider separating paying players into premium districts free from cheaters.
They are fundamentally out of touch with what this game really needs to thrive.