Enforcers are supposed to lose 95% of games, right?

[RobidyBobidy]

As an enforcer, virtually EVERY single game, I've been put up against 2+ 255 rank criminals totally decked out with gear and powerful guns, and it's always me (rank 30 ish) and another guy who is equally as new.

Do the devs not see this as why their game is dying? It's causing an endless cycle of newbie enforcers quitting because NOBODY has fun when the enemy holds every possible advantage.

[asdf]

Rank doesnt mean ♥♥♥♥ though...

[devyyon]

Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:

As an enforcer, virtually EVERY single game, I've been put up against 2+ 255 rank criminals totally decked out with gear and powerful guns, and it's always me (rank 30 ish) and another guy who is equally as new.

Do the devs not see this as why their game is dying? It's causing an endless cycle of newbie enforcers quitting because NOBODY has fun when the enemy holds every possible advantage.

lmao as an enforcer main I disagree. mostly I get clueless trainee opponents

[リゼ]

not sure if you are aware but less lethal wepons on enforcers are pretty op, criminals dont have less lethal, on top of that there is pictures of dumb people saying criminals are noobs, rank dose not matter what matters is the tactic of course if you go like a storm tropper from start wars its pretty obvious you are not going hit anything.

[Yeedman]

Originally posted by 💎ミンクス💎:

not sure if you are aware but less lethal wepons on enforcers are pretty op, criminals dont have less lethal, on top of that there is pictures of dumb people saying criminals are noobs, rank dose not matter what matters is the tactic of course if you go like a storm tropper from start wars its pretty obvious you are not going hit anything.

they're not. stop trying to misguide new players, thanks.
anyways, to op, join bronze districts through advanced district select, you will still see golds because smurfs but less

[RobidyBobidy]

Well, first off:

1) Rank doesn't mean anything? That's nice to hear, coming from the guy who has nearly 3500 hours logged into this game (seriously, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! I thought I put a lot of hours into skyrim, but damn...! Lol), who probably knows every single pixel of the city from top to bottom and knows where to place themselves strategically, who probably knows every gun, has only the best guns, and knows which gun is best for which areas and how to use to use each gun effectively, who is decked out with the best mods to give them a flat automatic advantage in fights on top of the extensive experience from played time alone...... but ya, other than those little details, rank is totally meaningless. Thanks for stopping by for that little PSA.

2) I have not tried the "less lethal" weapons because, by definition, they sounded "less good." Is that supposed to be how you "arrest" them? Is that actually worth doing? I almost never see it happen, so I assumed it wasn't worth trying them. That other guy seems to agree.

3) I never saw any buttons about separating bronze players, but I'll check again for it. Thanks for the info.

[HEX: LocalLadyboy]

LTL is a meme and if you see anyone doing it is because they just want to get more $ or contact rep. It gives way more than a regular kill, a lot more. Once you get the hang of the game, LTL is quite fun... but you have to play very smart as lethal weapons will always beat LTL if you try to play on equal ground.

[Spall]

Enforcers always beat me as a Criminal unless I play in a group of competent players (usually from previous missions).

As an Enforcer about 55% of the time I get Average or Bad opposition, and the rest I get a group of 230-255s who are godlike together and are probably grouped up.

[RobidyBobidy]

I'm assuming you're max rank and all that. You probably aren't seeing the same side of things that I'm seeing, since when you get matched up with other 255's, that's no big deal to you. The best weapon available to me is the most basic ntec rifle, which takes about 5-6 close range shots to kill someone. While my opposite has some gold "new glory" or whatever gun that kills me in 2 shots from all the way down the street.

[Teddini]

This post contains so much salt, if you print it and throw it on the streets in the winter, it will dissolve all the snow and ice.

Seriously though. I am an Enf-only-Player. I have days where its only trainees vs me, i have days where i get equally ranked oponnents. Its always random and depends on what players are online. Also, ofc premium helps with the lower cooldowns. But in general, I dont know any weapon (ok maybe true ogre is a special shotgun..) from armas that is better than any of the ingame weapons. They are different. But you can swap weapons and always chose what is best for a mission or given location. So I dont see a point why people complain about armas-gear. I know free-players who stomp me on regular basis. And thats only because -THEY- -ARE- -GOOD-.

But of course, its always easier to cry than to actually train and improve.

[リゼ]

Originally posted by Yeedman:

Originally posted by 💎ミンクス💎:

not sure if you are aware but less lethal wepons on enforcers are pretty op, criminals dont have less lethal, on top of that there is pictures of dumb people saying criminals are noobs, rank dose not matter what matters is the tactic of course if you go like a storm tropper from start wars its pretty obvious you are not going hit anything.

they're not. stop trying to misguide new players, thanks.
anyways, to op, join bronze districts through advanced district select, you will still see golds because smurfs but less

its not a miss guide am solid gold, i play eu and na, i think the main issue in the game should be more about people using hacks on gold its a whole new story.

[Flight]

I generally find Enforcer easier to play than criminal. Most top tier clans are on the Enforcer side for some reason (Don't ask me why!).

[RobidyBobidy]

Originally posted by Teddini:

This post contains so much salt, if you print it and throw it on the streets in the winter, it will dissolve all the snow and ice.

Seriously though. I am an Enf-only-Player. I have days where its only trainees vs me, i have days where i get equally ranked oponnents. Its always random and depends on what players are online. Also, ofc premium helps with the lower cooldowns. But in general, I dont know any weapon (ok maybe true ogre is a special shotgun..) from armas that is better than any of the ingame weapons. They are different. But you can swap weapons and always chose what is best for a mission or given location. So I dont see a point why people complain about armas-gear. I know free-players who stomp me on regular basis. And thats only because -THEY- -ARE- -GOOD-.

But of course, its always easier to cry than to actually train and improve.

I've played shooters my whole life (as I'm sure everyone here probably has) and I don't have trouble aiming. The issue is that, in this game, the more you play and pay, the more gear you have access to. It's a slope that reinforces players that don't need reinforcement, and creates a disparity between them and new people who already have tons of implicit disadvantages. Players that are veterans SHOULD be rewarded for their hard work and playtime, but not in ways that give them an unnecessary edge. Don't you agree with that at least a little bit?

Don't BS the community or yourself by essentially saying "Ya, people blow hundreds of dollars on new guns and gear, but it's not even better than the starting gear. People just really enjoy spending real life money to get guns that are just as good as the ones they have..."

[Kidney Thief]

Originally posted by RobidyBobidy:

Originally posted by Teddini:

This post contains so much salt, if you print it and throw it on the streets in the winter, it will dissolve all the snow and ice.

Seriously though. I am an Enf-only-Player. I have days where its only trainees vs me, i have days where i get equally ranked oponnents. Its always random and depends on what players are online. Also, ofc premium helps with the lower cooldowns. But in general, I dont know any weapon (ok maybe true ogre is a special shotgun..) from armas that is better than any of the ingame weapons. They are different. But you can swap weapons and always chose what is best for a mission or given location. So I dont see a point why people complain about armas-gear. I know free-players who stomp me on regular basis. And thats only because -THEY- -ARE- -GOOD-.

But of course, its always easier to cry than to actually train and improve.

I've played shooters my whole life (as I'm sure everyone here probably has) and I don't have trouble aiming. The issue is that, in this game, the more you play and pay, the more gear you have access to. It's a slope that reinforces players that don't need reinforcement, and creates a disparity between them and new people who already have tons of implicit disadvantages. Players that are veterans SHOULD be rewarded for their hard work and playtime, but not in ways that give them an unnecessary edge. Don't you agree with that at least a little bit?

Don't BS the community or yourself by essentially saying "Ya, people blow hundreds of dollars on new guns and gear, but it's not even better than the starting gear. People just really enjoy spending real life money to get guns that are just as good as the ones they have..."

nail'd it

[RobidyBobidy]

I'm just disappointed because the game looks and plays so well, but the matchmaking system, p2w shop, and the toxicity is unbearable. Such a waste of potential.

[Lion]

So, there's really a few things here.

1. Enforcers are normally better players than Criminals
Enforcers tend to have the higher skill ratings than criminals because of a imbalance in missions and ways to make money. Enforcers have much harder missions to complete while having less time to complete it than criminals. The normal time for enforcers to complete a mission is 5 minute timers, while all criminal missions are 10 minute timers.

Earning money is much harder as a enforcer. Criminals have Ram raiding, mugging to earn infinite amounts of cash. We played on our crim over only 2 hours and earned 300k cash by only ramraiding and got to tier 3 contacts.

Enforcers have LTL to earn money. but LTL has literally Double the TTK to just STUN a enemy. And they have half the ammo to do so. Normal guns have 180 rounds, LTL has 80 rounds.

This forces enforcers to not only play harder, but smarter. They have to make shots count and use the cover system more in their favor to catch criminals with their pants down.

I've seen full enforcer clans swap to crim because crim was so much easier to play because they were sick of getting unbalanced missions..