glocklegging

[Jared]

lost it's novelty after the first few times. it's very annoying releasing tab a millisecond too early your guy fires off a round. the trigger safety on the glock apparently doesn't exist and your character in-game doesn't pass the IQ test a la the 4 firearm safety rules. makes me dread using semiautos in this game,

it's like the devs designed them to just want to go off whenever they want because of this weird "gun safety" message they want to promote. yeah, easy way to promote "gun safety" is to make the character in game a drooling idiot who points the gun at his head and can't keep his booger hook off the bang switch.

receiver 1's guns > R2 guns

[Ben Doverson]

I only can see one drooling idiot who cannot hold a button for 1.5 second. Sorry.

[Nate Mc Bow]

Originally posted by Ben Doverson:

I only can see one drooling idiot who cannot hold a button for 1.5 second. Sorry.

Agreed. As someone myself who actually has studied the mechanics of firearms IRL. I know exactly why this feature is in here. A LOT of people shoot themselves in the leg when they do not respect it.

If you have a problem holding down a button for a moment, then you should never have a firearm within a MILE of you.

[Jared]

the game assumes you're drawing and holstering your weapon with the finger on the trigger. it's like this game is presenting firearm safety as some incredibly hard thing to maintain 100% of the time. treat every weapon as if it were loaded, never point your weapon at anything you dont intend to shoot, keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire, keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire. the glock's trigger safety works if you have an IQ > 90, just dont put your stupid little finger on the curved part till you're ready to shoot.

[Karv3r]

Just use the slide lock as safety, problem solved.

[YinYin]

You can hold L to sleep and wake up with a new gun, if you don't want to safely handle the Glock.

(I don't think the game assumes anything about your finger - the text and tapes regarding this mention the trigger getting caught on other things and the threat being the cause for that)

[Ben Doverson]

Originally posted by Jared:

Originally posted by Nate Mc Bow:

As someone myself who actually has studied the mechanics of firearms IRL. I know exactly why this feature is in here.

You're from ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sweden brother man, i've grown up with and around firearms and get paid to shoot them, so go ♥♥♥♥ yourself if you think glocklegging yourself is something that can happen to someone who follows the bare fundamentals of firearm safety.

Did you ACTUALLY tried pull out a glock 17 from the holster for less than a second? How is your leg doing?
Did you tried hand simulator here on steam? You are going to love it with all your trigger finger obsession.

[Jared]

Originally posted by Ben Doverson:

Did you ACTUALLY tried pull out a glock 17 from the holster for less than a second? How is your leg doing?
Did you tried hand simulator here on steam? You are going to love it with all your trigger finger obsession.

did you trieded reading what I wroted? yeah, I am holding it, but unfortunately if you release tab a microsecond too early your guy decides to put one in his leg or whatever is in front of him. that doesn't happen.

Originally posted by YinYin:

You can hold L to sleep and wake up with a new gun, if you don't want to safely handle the Glock.

(I don't think the game assumes anything about your finger - the text and tapes regarding this mention the trigger getting caught on other things and the threat being the cause for that)

it's practically an urban legend that springs from early LE adopters here in the states not being used to a lack of a manual safety. everybody knows a guy who knows a guy who AD'd his glock, yet you can never find someone who actually has. file in the same category as the "one who that away." it is a thing that *can* happen, and *will* happen to a careless user, but it's such a slight chance that there's no way to justify being able to consistently fire the gun by holstering and unholstering your weapon in this game. i could understand if there was a skill progression system in this game, where when you level up your character stops flinching after shots and can finally obey rule 3, but there's no such thing and your guy just loves pumping his ♥♥♥♥♥ popper on the boom goer.

[burger 58]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this topic comes up every 2 seconds. The Threat is able to influence the world in such way that anything that could go wrong, will go wrong (Murphy's Law). This is why the guns in the game jam far more often than any of them would irl. This is why getting tazed by a drone results in cardiac arrest 100% of the time. This is why 1 bullet, or a fall that's slightly too high kills 100% of the time. There's a tape about this in the game.

On that note, the game influences your character in such that despite his training, he must use great caution to avoid accidents. That's why slow holstering is so important, without it you WILL shoot yourself on accident, even if you're very competent with firearms.

Now more realistically, it's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard to hold tab instead of tapping it. That's just your fault. I've never shot myself in the leg bar my first ever time booting up the game. Get good, and become a receiver, or suffer.

[Jared]

cringe

[ReverendTed]

I think the main issue is that there's no clear indication of how long you have to hold it to be "safe". Is it until the icon stops moving? That's the gauge I've been using. That said, I'm not sure if I'm avoiding negligent discharges or just haven't reached a high enough rank yet. I keep losing ranks to crashes so I'm perpetually an Initiate, or Sleeper if I'm lucky.

[burger 58]

Originally posted by ReverendTed:

I think the main issue is that there's no clear indication of how long you have to hold it to be "safe". Is it until the icon stops moving? That's the gauge I've been using. That said, I'm not sure if I'm avoiding negligent discharges or just haven't reached a high enough rank yet. I keep losing ranks to crashes so I'm perpetually an Initiate, or Sleeper if I'm lucky.

If this happens, until they take out the deranking on quit, just type INSIGHT into the game at any time to rank up and not have to feel guilty ;0)

[Jared]

Originally posted by ReverendTed:

I think the main issue is that there's no clear indication of how long you have to hold it to be "safe". Is it until the icon stops moving? That's the gauge I've been using. That said, I'm not sure if I'm avoiding negligent discharges or just haven't reached a high enough rank yet. I keep losing ranks to crashes so I'm perpetually an Initiate, or Sleeper if I'm lucky.

agreed. there's no way to "perfect" the amount of time you have to hold it because one time you'll be 1 millisecond off and you'll get glock leg. so in it's current state, i find myself holding tab for a stupid amount of time to make absolutely sure the game isn't trying to kill me.

[Plastik20xx]

I love this feature, I've shot myself so many times and after the anger wears off I'm disappointed in myself and try harder not to react without thinking first.

EDIT: As far as the amount of time to hold... For me I just hold until movement stops, never have a problem as long as I'm paying attention.

[Caramell]

big agreement with OP, it's such a BS game mechanic.

[Naxvarus]

Originally posted by Jared:

Originally posted by ReverendTed:

I think the main issue is that there's no clear indication of how long you have to hold it to be "safe". Is it until the icon stops moving? That's the gauge I've been using. That said, I'm not sure if I'm avoiding negligent discharges or just haven't reached a high enough rank yet. I keep losing ranks to crashes so I'm perpetually an Initiate, or Sleeper if I'm lucky.

agreed. there's no way to "perfect" the amount of time you have to hold it because one time you'll be 1 millisecond off and you'll get glock leg. so in it's current state, i find myself holding tab for a stupid amount of time to make absolutely sure the game isn't trying to kill me.

Dude, it takes like a second. And it's not like the gun only starts to come out when you release the button, it's as soon as you start pressing it. So literally what are you losing by just holding the button for an extra second?

It sounds like you just came on here to ♥♥♥♥♥ because you finally got up to rank 2 and then shot yourself in the leg. Get over it. If you don't have the patience to hold a button for a second or two when you unholster it, glock leg is the least of your worries anyway.