Need a way to undo motorway deletions

[Cenon]

Hi

the UI is very good in general, but this one thing gives me a headache from time to times.

If you mistakingly delete a motorway and dont have spare ones on inventory, there is no way to undo the deletion. On heavily trafficked ways this is a fatal move, since the motorway cannot be placed again until the deleted motorway is gone. And it will not dissappear until every car has driven it back to home. This also means that no car will go to the destinations, which will probably cause a destination to fill and its game over.

So please either give a fill-in motorway on inventory to replace deleted motorways, or create another way to undo the motorway deletion.

Thanks

[spielerinchen]

won't happen, many before you have asked for this but the devs see this apparently as a gameplay challenge
you have to work around
if you want to click away some roads, pause, move the motorway for the time being out of the way, remove roads, move motorway back
i am doing this now always, it's the only way

[Cenon]

Originally posted by spielerinchen:

won't happen, many before you have asked for this but the devs see this apparently as a gameplay challenge
you have to work around
if you want to click away some roads, pause, move the motorway for the time being out of the way, remove roads, move motorway back
i am doing this now always, it's the only way

I understand that if you try to deliberately move the motorways, there shouldn't be momentary two motorways, unless you actually have the inventory. I'm talking about accidentally deleting a motorway (or anything else you don't have surplus on inventory). There's no way to undo it, and that's pretty much game over on lategame.

[spielerinchen]

Originally posted by Cenon:

I understand that if you try to deliberately move the motorways, there shouldn't be momentary two motorways, unless you actually have the inventory. I'm talking about accidentally deleting a motorway (or anything else you don't have surplus on inventory). There's no way to undo it, and that's pretty much game over on lategame.

ok, maybe you just don't know

a motorway layed out on the map (not in inventory) can be moved away by hand with the mouse
A) at both ends connecting to a road
B) the middle part with the number in the middle to make the underlying roads visible

now read my previous post again

[jkdarcher]

I use a laptop and sometimes the clicks are in correct and just recently late game was moving a round about that was right next to a motorway entrance and deleted the motorway. This NEEDS to be fixed I can't believe it's even a debate.

[spielerinchen]

so far it doesn't count as a bug, so it won't be fixed

[*| Lion Heart |*]

Originally posted by Cenon:

Hi

the UI is very good in general, but this one thing gives me a headache from time to times.

If you mistakingly delete a motorway and dont have spare ones on inventory, there is no way to undo the deletion. On heavily trafficked ways this is a fatal move, since the motorway cannot be placed again until the deleted motorway is gone. And it will not dissappear until every car has driven it back to home. This also means that no car will go to the destinations, which will probably cause a destination to fill and its game over.

So please either give a fill-in motorway on inventory to replace deleted motorways, or create another way to undo the motorway deletion.

Thanks

Is that not the point of the game to actually think ahead, then execute? Rather than just plomp, remove, and correct, items? It does not really seem to be a challenge then...

[Cenon]

I may not been specific enough, but this is not a thinking issue, but a slip issue. It's very easy to wipe a perfectly functioning motorway whilst erasing normal roads. Just give a method to undo the error, like you can build back the normal roads back the way you have just deleted. Motorway shouldn't be an exception.

[Relaxed]

I agree this must be added to the game. 1 missed click and is over. Or sometimes the game just deleted the motorway instead the road on the same junction. Not fun to loose because of this. It's a problem of the game not the player.

[Abomination72]

Absolutely. Also just lost a game due to this. Don't even know why the motorway got deleted. I'd swear I didn't click on it, just the road next to it.

[Simon]

You don’t even need to be editing roads for this to happen. Because right-click means delete, it’s easy to accidentally delete something on my laptop's track-pad when it mistakenly (or otherwise) registers a second touch input, which it counts as a right-click.

There's already a precedent to allow the player to restore motorways that are mistakenly deleted. Unreleased road tiles already behave in this manner. You can also restore a bridge or tunnel that has been deleted but not yet released without needing any spare tunnels or bridges to do so. Why is this possible for tunnels and bridges but not motorways? There's also a way around accidentally deleting a roundabout: by connecting the roads left broken with road segments (if available) you can get the roundabout back straight away. It's generally easy to find unused bits of road that can be used for this purpose temporarily, just until you get the roundabout back. It's only motorways that are unable to be restored immediately when accidentally deleted. It’s a huge annoyance that (as others say) can easily spell game over in the latter stages. It’s not a feature to penalise players for miss-clicks in this kind of game I would've thought.

The devs don’t seem particularly amenable to suggestions unfortunately. Many people requested them to fix or change the annoying “You have run out of road tiles” message that obscures the map and stays up for far too long, yet that remains. We even tell them several possible solutions, such as having the road count icon pop up (as it does anyway) with a simple visual cue added to indicate no remaining tiles.

[STEvil of Big Game Hunters]

Agree, this needs to be fixed. Have gone to delete a road tile only to delete a motorway attached to the tile more than once. Game over.

[Infinity Wind]

Definitely needs an undo for ACCIDENTAL deletes. Nobody here is arguing to make the gameplay easier.

[HughManatee]

Originally posted by Simon:

You don’t even need to be editing roads for this to happen. Because right-click means delete, it’s easy to accidentally delete something on my laptop's track-pad when it mistakenly (or otherwise) registers a second touch input, which it counts as a right-click.

I don't personally use it because I prefer right click to delete, but there is an option to turn it off.

[spielerinchen]

Originally posted by Just Wind:

Definitely needs an undo for ACCIDENTAL deletes. Nobody here is arguing to make the gameplay easier.

there is no way the game can be programmed to discern what an accidental & what an intended click is
the only way would be to ask you EVERY time a removal of a motorway is impending

is this what you are asking for ?
or what other solutions do you have in mind ?

[Sarzul]

Originally posted by spielerinchen:

Originally posted by Just Wind:

Definitely needs an undo for ACCIDENTAL deletes. Nobody here is arguing to make the gameplay easier.

there is no way the game can be programmed to discern what an accidental & what an intended click is
the only way would be to ask you EVERY time a removal of a motorway is impending

is this what you are asking for ?
or what other solutions do you have in mind ?

Easy solution is to make deletes on non-road resources to require holding the button on it for slightly longer. This is modern UX design, and is in many games that have an action that can't be otherwise undone.

Edit: Thought of another solution as well: spawn a "move" dot exactly how it works when you move a highway, so you could easily click it to re-put it back there.