Edit map?

[Dar]

Hi. Is there anyway to edit maps please? Like change station names and also edit the walls? Thank you

[Rudolf Jan]

You can create your own.

[Tech 52]

You can't edit a map unless you made it.

[Angel]

I wonder whether we should allow editing of all maps?

[Wolfie_]

Originally posted by Angel:

I wonder whether we should allow editing of all maps?

Could potentially open up a can of worms, plagiarism claims etc. Possible solution might be to limit edits to being locally saved, unable to subsequently upload to Workshop (unsure whether that's possible).

One feature which might be nice, I'm thinking of Timetable maps, but could work for Rushhour too(?), being able to make a timetable for someone else's route. So, would embed somewhere in the Workshop entry ("requires Timetable route XYZ"), but all it contains is a replacement timetable. A possible breaking point for this might be, what if the route later gets updated? Anyway, something for the back-burner perhaps.

[coenvijge]

You can (sometimes very limited) 'edit' an endless map by taking out the first tracks and/or signals and replace them in another way or use the money to make another connection. But that's (imo) an alternative way to play the map, not realy editing it. Changing the walls would be more like 'making a different map'.

[Tech 52]

Originally posted by Wolfie_:

Originally posted by Angel:

I wonder whether we should allow editing of all maps?

Could potentially open up a can of worms, plagiarism claims etc. Possible solution might be to limit edits to being locally saved, unable to subsequently upload to Workshop (unsure whether that's possible).

Agree with this.

The maps were created with walls to create a challenge to players, also some maps are created as real life so you just cant place track just any where.

If you open this up, there would be no point in creating maps that can be changed. You may as well just plop a station in the middle and post it on the workshop.

[iProfessore]

There are seceral maps created by users (Vienna by McKay) where some of the stations don't have any contracts allowed. That is an error by the maker, it would be nice to be able to fix those.

Alternatively build a check in the Editor to say if there are any stations without contracts allowed flag it.

A station without any allowed contracts is not a station at all but a roadblock.

[_JustAnton_]

Originally posted by iProfessore:

There are several maps created by users (Vienna by McKay) where some of the stations don't have any contracts allowed. That is an error by the maker, it would be nice to be able to fix those.

Alternatively build a check in the Editor to say if there are any stations without contracts allowed flag it.

A station without any allowed contracts is not a station at all but a roadblock.

Not an error. These kinds of stations don't *generate* contracts, but they are still part of contracts between other stations.
Iirc, in McKay's Vienna map, Penzing doesn't generate contracts, but will be served by contracts both to/from Handelskai and Westbahnhof.
Making Penzing generate contracts only creates problems on the map, e.g. by diluting the pool of possible contracts

[Tech 52]

@_JustAnton_
As you have dug up an old topic, I would like to add to it.

I think that if there was anything for the developers to do, making some rules about how custom made maps are created, would be a start.
As someone said earlier, there needs to be a way to edit or put a limit on a station names length. Some are getting stupidly long, which makes reading the timetables/popups difficult.

[PepaJahoda]

Originally posted by Angel:

I wonder whether we should allow editing of all maps?

I think that the ability to edit maps from workshop would be great. Many maps are nicely done, but I often would like to expand the map with more stations, or change something, add something, etc., to make the map better suit my interests. For me personally, it is more interesting to research and remake + optimize the finished one, than to create everything from scratch every time.

It would also be a great option to have a complete sandbox mod, so that the player can change stations and everything during the game. Personally, I play RailRoute as an endlessly changing map, not a simulation some real stations or area etc.

[Tech 52]

Originally posted by PepaJahoda:

I think that the ability to edit maps from workshop would be great.

What about those map designers that spent many many hours (if not hundreds) creating these maps, just for people like you to come along and change them (and even post them on the workshop as their own creation)??

I'm not one for this option. I would not like something I created to be altered.
If you really want to change workshop maps, why not just create your own version?
It's really not that hard to do.
I hope you are not one of those that lets everyone else do the work, then you come in and do your little bit.

[Wolfie_]

Originally posted by Tech 52:

Originally posted by PepaJahoda:

I think that the ability to edit maps from workshop would be great.

What about those map designers that spent many many hours (if not hundreds) creating these maps, just for people like you to come along and change them (and even post them on the workshop as their own creation)??

My earlier post (see #4) attempted to propose a way to handle that, I note that Tech 42 you replied in favour of the idea back then, so this reply more to highlight the idea to PepaJahoda and anyone else following this topic -- had hoped to spark a discussion around the idea, but it never caught on.

[Tech 52]

Originally posted by Wolfie_:

Originally posted by Tech 52:

What about those map designers that spent many many hours (if not hundreds) creating these maps, just for people like you to come along and change them (and even post them on the workshop as their own creation)??

My earlier post (see #4) attempted to propose a way to handle that, I note that Tech 42 you replied in favour of the idea back then, so this reply more to highlight the idea to PepaJahoda and anyone else following this topic -- had hoped to spark a discussion around the idea, but it never caught on.

I suggest you re-read my post.

I was replying and agreeing with you Wolfie, not Angel. Angel's quote was included for context.