Awakening of the Dead Gods easier than Temple of Eagle?

[єℓ вℓσσ∂у]

Is it just me or is this actually the case? I struggled with the Temple of Eagle for quite many tries. I got to the last bosses second phase in Awakening of the Dead Gods in my first try, definitely could have done it first try but just didn't expect many of the attacks, then second try I got it with ease. The thing is you can easily use the easy bosses to get rid of curses which makes it kinda trivial.

[Naftak]

Цитата допису Nexielas:

Цитата допису n3mes1s:

Last curse should be changed, not removed. Sorry but draining hp in this kind of game is pretty unpleasant and joy-breaking. Specially when you need to fight bosses. And if you get the final curse even a room before that.. you already know you are not going to be able to kill the boss, at all. So yeah very unpleasant. I only got the final curse twice or three times since i started playing, its not a problem for me, but that doesnt mean that i understand how bad it is.

but the final curse is supposed to be punishing and anoying for not managing your corruption well. if you dont want that punishment then don´t get so much corruption.

Pretty much this. Final Curse is designed to punish greed.

I am inflicted with it almost every run (to be honest I've stopped seeing it as a big problem), because I tend to pay for everything with corruption in order to save gold for the finale.

When doing this, I accept that it comes with consequences if I push my luck too far, and make an effort to hit as many Champions as I can to help me to afford to play like this.

This is the playstyle I've found I'm most comfortable with, but it won't be for everyone.

[n3mes1s]

Final curse is too decisive. It should be changed to something more appealing. That is not game and fun breaking. OR at least reduce the speed your hp drains. Its insane.

[Leviathan]

Цитата допису єℓ вℓσσ∂у:

The thing is you can easily use the easy bosses to get rid of curses which makes it kinda trivial.

Dunno, but in Eagle temple you don't even get a lot of corruption. The only enemies which cause corruption (that I remember) are the bowmen, when they shoot upwards, which is easy to dodge, the swordsmen, with the wave attack that they rarely use, and the ball thingies which only use that attack. I remember there was one time I got to the third boss without any curse, which I didn't want at all.

[єℓ вℓσσ∂у]

Цитата допису Leviathan:

Цитата допису єℓ вℓσσ∂у:

The thing is you can easily use the easy bosses to get rid of curses which makes it kinda trivial.

Dunno, but in Eagle temple you don't even get a lot of corruption. The only enemies which cause corruption (that I remember) are the bowmen, when they shoot upwards, which is easy to dodge, the swordsmen, with the wave attack that they rarely use, and the ball thingies which only use that attack. I remember there was one time I got to the third boss without any curse, which I didn't want at all.

If a major source of corruption you get are the enemies then you are doing something wrong regardless of the temple. I think it was already made clear multiple times in this discussion that it is a strategic consideration to almost always be able to afford stuff even on an expensive path, which is without comparison the largest source of corruption aswell as doors.
I also had runs where I got to last bosses without any corruption what so ever, I also had runs with 70+ perception what exactly is the relevance of this?

[Barely Cuda]

Цитата допису n3mes1s:

Final curse is too decisive. It should be changed to something more appealing. That is not game and fun breaking. OR at least reduce the speed your hp drains. Its insane.

Why is it game-breaking? The whole point of it is to deter you from it. If it wasn't so bad then why ever pay with gold? Just spam blood offers until it isn't an option anymore. Makes for some enjoyable resource management imo. To each their own though, don't want to start a debate or anything haha, just curious.

[n3mes1s]

Beause you already know you will fail, no matter what you try, unless of course you reach the boss with 2000hp+ lol. Thats why it is fun and game-breaking. And because its a bad design, period. The rate at wich the hp drains is ridiculous.

[Naftak]

Цитата допису n3mes1s:

Beause you already know you will fail, no matter what you try, unless of course you reach the boss with 2000hp+ lol. Thats why it is fun and game-breaking. And because its a bad design, period. The rate at wich the hp drains is ridiculous.

But this isn't true? The curse literally cannot outright kill you. I would say I both get hit with, and subsequently cleanse, this curse once per run on average. It is not the run-ender you seem to think it is.

As a few other people have said, it exists as a deterrent to being greedy and paying for everything with corruption. This deterrent needs to exist.

[SaiColors]

I don't think the final curse is that bad, it is manageable, if you know you're gonna be op in this run, you can embrace it like it is nothing.

The curse that really hurt player are creature spawn after enemy die, or sealing one relic slot near end game.

[n3mes1s]

Цитата допису sidecolors:

The curse that really hurt player are creature spawn after enemy die, or sealing one relic slot near end game.

Are you joking?

[n3mes1s]

Цитата допису Naftak:

But this isn't true? The curse literally cannot outright kill you. I would say I both get hit with, and subsequently cleanse, this curse once per run on average. It is not the run-ender you seem to think it is.

As a few other people have said, it exists as a deterrent to being greedy and paying for everything with corruption. This deterrent needs to exist.

Im not sure. I only got it three or four times but i didnt pay attention because i was never EVER able to kill any boss once i had it. I think when it reaches 1hp, it stops. But i could not be sure. But again, i dont care, the main problem with it is that in ten seconds it drained you about 500 hp. Thats insane.

And no. Im never greedy. I never use corruption to pay on altars lol. This game is based on randominess, you can get a lucky run, or the opposite around, it has nothing to do with being greedy. Thats the main flaw of the game. Its toooo RNG based.

[Fortytudo]

Цитата допису n3mes1s:

And no. Im never greedy. I never use corruption to pay on altars lol.

Then how are you even getting the final curse? Dont answer, I know how - you are getting hit by the corruption attacks because thats the only other source of corruption. And the only solution to that problem is - you guessed it - to git gud.

[Barely Cuda]

drains 0.4% max health a second and stops at 1HP. Can outheal it even with crit heal, other healing relics, healing rooms, Bloodlust and/or weapon affixes. Imo it's not punishing enough ;p

[Naftak]

Цитата допису n3mes1s:

And no. Im never greedy. I never use corruption to pay on altars lol. This game is based on randominess, you can get a lucky run, or the opposite around, it has nothing to do with being greedy. Thats the main flaw of the game. Its toooo RNG based.

If you're never using corruption to pay, and you're still getting hit with the final curse in your runs... Sorry to say but the curse isn't the problem.

Цитата допису Barely Cuda:

drains 0.4% max health a second and stops at 1HP. Can outheal it even with crit heal, other healing relics, healing rooms, Bloodlust and/or weapon affixes. Imo it's not punishing enough ;p

Yup, this is pretty much it. Final curse is almost always a non-factor.

[n3mes1s]

Цитата допису Naftak:

If you're never using corruption to pay, and you're still getting hit with the final curse in your runs... Sorry to say but the curse isn't the problem.

Nop, the problem is the terrible RNG factor of the game. Not even you, god of gamers, cant prevent to reach the final curse if you dont have any sources to remove it, not through relics, not through weapons, anything. And so you know, im not complaining about it, i only got it three times over hundreds of runs by now, im just saying that it should be nerfed a little bit, because its moronic and breaks all the fun of the game.

[n3mes1s]

Цитата допису Barely Cuda:

drains 0.4% max health a second and stops at 1HP. Can outheal it even with crit heal, other healing relics, healing rooms, Bloodlust and/or weapon affixes. Imo it's not punishing enough ;p

What healing sources you have fighting a boss?? this was supossed to be a joke, right?