Help with Atari and Amiga

[angrywithrage]

I'm requesting some help with playing amiga and Atari ST games on retroarch because I've spent too long on it now to go any further without losing sanity.

I had success downloading a file of Amstrad CPC games. This was done by scanning the folder and it created a little icon entry for Amstrad CPC that I can click on, select a game and play (The retroarch keyboard overlay/short cuts render them unplayable but that;s another thing!).
I attempted the same with Amiga and had no luck. Found that I need a kickstart file and as that doesnt seem to be available I gave up.

Atari needed a TOS file which I did find and inserted in the system folder but when I do the same file scan for ST games, it goes through the motions but no Atari playlist like I got with the amstrad. Launching individual files either brings up a nintendo and some other random core to select from (no Hatari which I have added) or it suggests I "recover cores".

I just wanted to play some speedball and barbarian so if anyone can offer any glimmer of hope here it will be appreciated.

Thanks

[Modern Retro Gamer (UK)]

Amiga Kickstart is easily, legally, available. Check out 'Amiga Forever'. It's freely downloadable. Kickstart extrable. See Libretro Docs p-uae entry for correct renaming of the file.

Can't help with Atari. No my jam. No idea what current legal status of TOS images are.

[Dgo]

I still could not make it work or play amiga games on RA but I didn't spend much effort tbh. In regards to Atari what's exactly your concern? All of them are easy to make them work starting by 2600 with Stella.

[Modern Retro Gamer (UK)]

The systems you are referring to use their own versions of a BIOS, TOS and Kickstart respectfully. They are not usually included with the emulators because they, like the games, are copyright files.

As such discussions about how to obtain them are not usually permitted here, it being piracy.

However the Amiga Kickstart IS freely available from it's current copyright holder, Cloanto, via their freely downloadable Amiga Forever package.

The Libretro Docs website will tell you how the file should be renamed to work with RetroArch. And then placed in RetroArch's Systems folder.

Beyond that all I can tell you is Amiga emulation works because I have it 100% working here.

P-uae core, Kickstart 1.3 rom, Amiga 500 preset core options, adf game images in an Amiga ROMs folder.

[Dgo]

Yeah I know amiga emulation works. I even watched videos about it. I wanted to play Apidya a bee shooter game but when I tried to do the settings I failed horribly and I didn' persist. I know if I seat with patience I can the thing is, its emulation seems to be pretty more difficult than other emulators.

[Fried Brains]

use scroll lock to toggle Game Focus Mode, when game focus is on you can use the keyboard without controller bindings, also disable steam input

[angrywithrage]

Linux Retro Gamer původně napsal:

The systems you are referring to use their own versions of a BIOS, TOS and Kickstart respectfully. They are not usually included with the emulators because they, like the games, are copyright files.

As such discussions about how to obtain them are not usually permitted here, it being piracy.

However the Amiga Kickstart IS freely available from it's current copyright holder, Cloanto, via their freely downloadable Amiga Forever package.

The Libretro Docs website will tell you how the file should be renamed to work with RetroArch. And then placed in RetroArch's Systems folder.

Beyond that all I can tell you is Amiga emulation works because I have it 100% working here.

P-uae core, Kickstart 1.3 rom, Amiga 500 preset core options, adf game images in an Amiga ROMs folder.

Thanks for this. I will give it a try. Did see the amigaforever site but they want name and address and credit card which seemed unwise on such a random site.

[angrywithrage]

Fried Brains původně napsal:

use scroll lock to toggle Game Focus Mode, when game focus is on you can use the keyboard without controller bindings, also disable steam input

Thanks for the tip!

[angrywithrage]

Daegoth Vilfariel původně napsal:

I still could not make it work or play amiga games on RA but I didn't spend much effort tbh. In regards to Atari what's exactly your concern? All of them are easy to make them work starting by 2600 with Stella.

It is actually the Atari ST I was trying, not the older consoles. When I ran into problems with Amiga I thought Atari ST as they were basically the same thing with very similar games

[angrywithrage]

Linux Retro Gamer původně napsal:

The systems you are referring to use their own versions of a BIOS, TOS and Kickstart respectfully. They are not usually included with the emulators because they, like the games, are copyright files.

As such discussions about how to obtain them are not usually permitted here, it being piracy.

However the Amiga Kickstart IS freely available from it's current copyright holder, Cloanto, via their freely downloadable Amiga Forever package.

The Libretro Docs website will tell you how the file should be renamed to work with RetroArch. And then placed in RetroArch's Systems folder.

Beyond that all I can tell you is Amiga emulation works because I have it 100% working here.

P-uae core, Kickstart 1.3 rom, Amiga 500 preset core options, adf game images in an Amiga ROMs folder.

Could you please expand on the ADF game images? I have some roms which are "amiga harddisc images" and I have now got amiga forever but it doesnt seem to recognise any of them?

[Modern Retro Gamer (UK)]

You only need AmigaForever to extract the BIOS file, aka Kickstart. Once you have the right Kickstart file you need to make sure has been renamed correctly and placed in the right location for RA to find it. Libretro Docs cam help you with that.

adf (Amiga Disk File) is the main Amiga floppy disk image format. It's expected that disk images for most, if not all, Amiga games would be in this format.

Amiga hard disk is more difficult. Have you actually got hdf (Amiga hard disk file) images for each game? If so you'll need to match the version of Kickstart with the version of Workbench used in the disk image. The version of Kickstart needed may not be in the free version of AmigaForever. Anyway we are now touching dangerously close to discussing piracy for this forum.

Either that or you have whdload files which need you to set up your own Amiga hdf hard drive images, which in turn will need copies of Amiga Workbench images and game adf images to eventually make work.

Regardless of Kickstart or disk image files, you also need to make sure the emulator us configured correctly to emulate an appropriate Amiga model. This is done ib RAs Quick Menu, under Core Options.

At the end of the day you are trying to emulate a real home micro computer every bit as complex as an IBM PC or Apple Macintosh. It was never designef to be as plug and play as a Master System or SNES.

A forum like this just isn't designed for giving detailed setup instructions, just general pointers...


- use Kickstart 1.3, rename it correctly, place in RAs Systems folder.

- Use adf disk image files for games placed in a suitable Amiga ROMs folder.

- configure emulation for 1MB Amiga 500 model (Core Options, RA Quick Menu)

Best of luck.

[angrywithrage]

Linux Retro Gamer původně napsal:

You only need AmigaForever to extract the BIOS file, aka Kickstart. Once you have the right Kickstart file you need to make sure has been renamed correctly and placed in the right location for RA to find it. Libretro Docs cam help you with that.

adf (Amiga Disk File) is the main Amiga floppy disk image format. It's expected that disk images for most, if not all, Amiga games would be in this format.

Amiga hard disk is more difficult. Have you actually got hdf (Amiga hard disk file) images for each game? If so you'll need to match the version of Kickstart with the version of Workbench used in the disk image. The version of Kickstart needed may not be in the free version of AmigaForever. Anyway we are now touching dangerously close to discussing piracy for this forum.

Either that or you have whdload files which need you to set up your own Amiga hdf hard drive images, which in turn will need copies of Amiga Workbench images and game adf images to eventually make work.

Regardless of Kickstart or disk image files, you also need to make sure the emulator us configured correctly to emulate an appropriate Amiga model. This is done ib RAs Quick Menu, under Core Options.

At the end of the day you are trying to emulate a real home micro computer every bit as complex as an IBM PC or Apple Macintosh. It was never designef to be as plug and play as a Master System or SNES.

A forum like this just isn't designed for giving detailed setup instructions, just general pointers...


- use Kickstart 1.3, rename it correctly, place in RAs Systems folder.

- Use adf disk image files for games placed in a suitable Amiga ROMs folder.

- configure emulation for 1MB Amiga 500 model (Core Options, RA Quick Menu)

Best of luck.

Thanks for all your help. It is appreciated