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actKK Sep 15 @ 5:44am
A compromised version?
I'm a long time Retroarch user, and as I personally don't like big picture mode, so I don't think I really would use this version at all. For what I read this version had stripped the posibility to download cores from the main interface, so its a less friendly, what is the opposite reason to had it on Steam. So why?

I'ḿ just guessing here but I think Valve put a "light" version online to avoid any IP legal battle about emulating other platforms? Is that the reason?
Originally posted by libretro:
Valve requested us not to have the Core Downloader as per their Terms of Service, so we did. Instead, cores will be supplied as free DLC. There are only 10 right now but we are aiming at adding more soon.
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Hyrule Sep 15 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by actKK:
I'm a long time Retroarch user, and as I personally don't like big picture mode, so I don't think I really would use this version at all. For what I read this version had stripped the posibility to download cores from the main interface, so its a less friendly, what is the opposite reason to had it on Steam. So why?

I'ḿ just guessing here but I think Valve put a "light" version online to avoid any IP legal battle about emulating other platforms? Is that the reason?
You pretty much summed it up already, you can install additional cores manually though. Also it's convenient for Steam remote play
Podés copypastear la versión full sobre esta y asunto solucionado. Yo tmp uso big picture pero acá podés compartir capturas, compartir discusiones e info con más facilidad y de modo más simple e intuitivo. Soporte y actualizaciones continuas, etc. Podés usar parsec para jugar online.

Si nada de eso te convence seguí con tu versión.
Hyrule Sep 15 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by Daegoth Vilfariel:
Podés copypastear la versión full sobre esta y asunto solucionado. Yo tmp uso big picture pero acá podés compartir capturas, compartir discusiones e info con más facilidad y de modo más simple e intuitivo. Soporte y actualizaciones continuas, etc. Podés usar parsec para jugar online.

Si nada de eso te convence seguí con tu versión.
parsec is good but remote play is better now imo
Originally posted by Hyrule:
parsec is good but remote play is better now imo
I cannot disagree more. Rpt is a bad and subpar copy of parsec. Will just summarise it by saying rpt is mainly limited to steam plus guest player has to eat black screens while waiting.
Parsec works better, guest can literally be with you virtually and you can play whatever you have on your PC even watch movies and is faster than rpt. I tested both with friends and the differences are huge.
Last edited by Daegoth Vilfariel; Sep 15 @ 6:26am
actKK Sep 15 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Daegoth Vilfariel:
Podés copypastear la versión full sobre esta y asunto solucionado. Yo tmp uso big picture pero acá podés compartir capturas, compartir discusiones e info con más facilidad y de modo más simple e intuitivo. Soporte y actualizaciones continuas, etc. Podés usar parsec para jugar online.

Si nada de eso te convence seguí con tu versión.

Honestamente no tenía idea de todas esas ventajas pero si, claro, a cada cual lo que le sirva. Mi post es más para sacarme la duda del motivo por el cual Valve tomó la decisión de no poner la versión completa, con claro acuerdo de los desarrolladores de Retroarch, y si, supongo que es básicamente que se esperan en cualquier momento algún temita legal con alguna de las empresas de las plataformas originales...
Originally posted by actKK:
Honestamente no tenía idea de todas esas ventajas pero si, claro, a cada cual lo que le sirva. Mi post es más para sacarme la duda del motivo por el cual Valve tomó la decisión de no poner la versión completa, con claro acuerdo de los desarrolladores de Retroarch, y si, supongo que es básicamente que se esperan en cualquier momento algún temita legal con alguna de las empresas de las plataformas originales...
Si bien es probable que haya precaución x temas legales nada de eso es motivo para pensar que no vamos a tener la versión full en el futuro ya que ni RA ni los emus incurren en ilegalidad alguna.

X otro lado si vas a la web de steamdb vas a ver docenas de nuevos núcleos que se avecinan como ppssp x ej.

Seguramente valve quiera ver com va esto de a poco x eso estuvieron como 2 años para habilitarlo mientras los devs ya lo tenían listo hace banda.

Y x eso seguramente tmp tengamos workshop xq la gente subiría material con copyright como ya pasó en otros casos similares.
Last edited by Daegoth Vilfariel; Sep 15 @ 8:17am
actKK Sep 15 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Daegoth Vilfariel:
Originally posted by actKK:
Honestamente no tenía idea de todas esas ventajas pero si, claro, a cada cual lo que le sirva. Mi post es más para sacarme la duda del motivo por el cual Valve tomó la decisión de no poner la versión completa, con claro acuerdo de los desarrolladores de Retroarch, y si, supongo que es básicamente que se esperan en cualquier momento algún temita legal con alguna de las empresas de las plataformas originales...
Si bien es probable que haya precaución x temas legales nada de eso es motivo para pensar que no vamos a tener la versión full en el futuro ya que los ni RA ni los emus incurren en ilegalidad alguna.

X otro lado si vas a la web de steamdb vas a ver docenas de nuevos núcleos que se avecinan como ppssp x ej.

Seguramente valve quiera ver com va esto de a poco x eso estuvieron como 2 años para habilitarlo mientras los devs ya lo tenían listo hace banda.

Y x eso seguramente tmp tengamos workshop xq la gente subiría material con copyright como ya pasó en otros casos similares.

Eso último me parece muy probable, es más, no me extrañaría que algunos de los titulares de las plataformas originales pongan algún que otro material hoy "controversial" (lease bios), como DLC pago para que los usuarios a través de Steam puedan emular de manera completamente legal las distintas plataformas. Eso sería una gran ventaja para simplificar y legitimar la emulación para los usuarios que elijan esta vía.
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libretro  [developer] Sep 15 @ 8:05am 
Valve requested us not to have the Core Downloader as per their Terms of Service, so we did. Instead, cores will be supplied as free DLC. There are only 10 right now but we are aiming at adding more soon.
Last edited by libretro; Sep 15 @ 8:06am
Rafael Sep 15 @ 8:19am 
Originally posted by libretro:
Valve requested us not to have the Core Downloader as per their Terms of Service, so we did. Instead, cores will be supplied as free DLC. There are only 10 right now but we are aiming at adding more soon.

This will be great, thanks! You guys are awesome!
Originally posted by libretro:
Valve requested us not to have the Core Downloader as per their Terms of Service, so we did. Instead, cores will be supplied as free DLC. There are only 10 right now but we are aiming at adding more soon.
Will you eventually add all the available cores or just some?
Originally posted by Daegoth Vilfariel:
Originally posted by Hyrule:
parsec is good but remote play is better now imo
I cannot disagree more. Rpt is a bad and subpar copy of parsec. Will just summarise it by saying rpt is mainly limited to steam plus guest player has to eat black screens while waiting.
Parsec works better, guest can literally be with you virtually and you can play whatever you have on your PC even watch movies and is faster than rpt. I tested both with friends and the differences are huge.
same here parsec works way better
Danjonkovich Sep 15 @ 11:50am 
Nice to have a Steam version for when the Steam Deck comes out.
Hyrule Sep 15 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Fatal † Existence:
Originally posted by Daegoth Vilfariel:
I cannot disagree more. Rpt is a bad and subpar copy of parsec. Will just summarise it by saying rpt is mainly limited to steam plus guest player has to eat black screens while waiting.
Parsec works better, guest can literally be with you virtually and you can play whatever you have on your PC even watch movies and is faster than rpt. I tested both with friends and the differences are huge.
same here parsec works way better
maybe it'S a region thing then but parsec started lagging on my end
actKK Sep 16 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by libretro:
Valve requested us not to have the Core Downloader as per their Terms of Service, so we did. Instead, cores will be supplied as free DLC. There are only 10 right now but we are aiming at adding more soon.

I think it's understandable for Valve to go the safest way! Thanks for the answer and all the hard work guys!!!
What does Big Picture mode have to do with it? I don't like Big Picture mode either, and I don't use it. Am I missing some RetroArch feature because of that?
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