Other games that use emulators or are emulators themselves!

[TechWolfie]

- Opening:

So as apparently according to some devs that I have looked up, some community emulators are being kicked off or rejected by Steam's review teams. While I wish RetroArch good luck on their Journey to being listed on the Steam Store, sometimes people are uh... abusive should we say? And I'm not talking about Steam Staff, hell no! They are doing their job. I'm talking about the people who accuse emulators of "illegally dumping or giving out free games". That is not what emulators are for! Much like how the R4 is a standard flash-cart, and not a hacking device, *cough cough* Looking at you, NINTENDO! *cough cough*
So today, I'm going to list some games and the like that falls under this thread's title. Any emulators will count, from home built emulators for that single game to fairly well known emulators. Without any further delays, lets begin.

- SEGA Mega Drive Classics:

Link is dead. Snipped.
This uses a in-house built emulator, at least from what I can tell. While this counts as a official emulator, what this game does is in fact download a bunch of ROM files so you can then plop them into your emulator of choice. They are really saying "Hey, for £25, we will give you all of these games in ROM format and if you just want to play them without any hassle, a front-end to play them all with additional mod support which come as their own little ROMs so you can play them as separate games!" Who would say no to that!? No-one with some sanity at least.

- TANGLEWOOD:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/837190/TANGLEWOOD/
A game developed by a single indie dev who was once featured on Computerphile.
I must say, he has really done well. But you might be asking, why develop for such an old console, more specifically, the SEGA Mega Drive? Well, as far as I can tell, this was originally made as a demonstration of what making games for the Mega Drive was like. But I guess the guy fell in love with the game he had, and decided to turn into a full game. And I have to say, he is good at it.
Now, where was I? Oh yes, the emulator. As far as I can tell, the emulator he has used is an unofficial one, but because it interfaces with Steam to give you achievements, I can't say for sure. Might be a port of another emulator.

- X-COM: UFO Defense:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/7760/XCOM_UFO_Defense/
This uses DOSBox, a unofficial emulator. This pretty much replicates the underlying DOS operating system and then from that, allows your DOS programs to run. RIP MS-DOS, btw. From what I heard, it was a quaint little OS for the day. Now, here is the thing: You can pretty rewrite the dosbox.conf file to do anything you want. I am not kidding, they literally took a portable version of DOSBox, written a couple of commands, dumped the game code alongside it and called it a day. Shocker, am i right?

- X-COM: Terror from the Deep:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/7650/XCOM_Terror_From_the_Deep/
This uses DOSBox, a unofficial emulator. This pretty much replicates the underlying DOS operating system and then from that, allows your DOS programs to run. RIP MS-DOS, btw. From what I heard, it was a quaint little OS for the day. Now, here is the thing: You can pretty rewrite the dosbox.conf file to do anything you want. I am not kidding, they literally took a portable version of DOSBox, written a couple of commands, dumped the game code alongside it and called it a day. Shocker, am i right?

- X-COM: Apocalypse:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/7660/XCOM_Apocalypse/
This uses DOSBox, a unofficial emulator. This pretty much replicates the underlying DOS operating system and then from that, allows your DOS programs to run. RIP MS-DOS, btw. From what I heard, it was a quaint little OS for the day. Now, here is the thing: You can pretty rewrite the dosbox.conf file to do anything you want. I am not kidding, they literally took a portable version of DOSBox, written a couple of commands, dumped the game code alongside it and called it a day. Shocker, am i right?
And yes, I just copied and pasted for the last 3 entries. But guess what? Its the same
setup, for each 3 games. That how convenient it is, really.

- 3DNesVR (Or 3DSenVR):

https://store.steampowered.com/app/954280/3dSenVR/
This is a emulator for NES games that is 3D and VR. Pretty simple, you give it a ROM to play, and it will try its best to emulate and convert that game into a 3D pop out like style. Like how the SEGA 3D games on the 3DS would try to make the sprites "pop out". Now here is the thing, Its home built. BUT, it has been on Itch.io and on their own website for some time now. AND it plays original ROMs too! So I would go as far as to say that this is an unofficial emulator.


Know any other games or emulators on Steam? Feel free to post them here. Any game on Steam that has the ROM ready to go or uses DOSBox will be very good examples.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Ojama King:

all capcom games and neo geo uses emulators, not sure about samurai shodown v but i heard it is rom so it has to use emulator.

Some of the collections use emulators, specifically those developed by Digital Eclipse. Some, like the second Mega Man Legacy Collection and both Mega Man X Legacy Collections use ports.

[Taweret]

sf uses emu i think, it doesnt even have crossplay, if it was full port the crossplay wouldnt be issue, or even adding extra characters from sfa3 on psp, or multiplayer to sf1, more online settings etc.
some discussion about this release:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/228878-street-fighter-30th-anniversary-collection/76661933
"I don't have the source of this tidbit at the moment. But I did read somewhere that Digital Eclipse actually used the well-known MAME emulator without permission, rebranded as what they dubbed as "Eclipse Engine," and marketed as their own creation. So basically this game is just a set of 12 ROMs running on an emulator called "Eclipse Engine," which is essentially MAME. While it's not illegal by any means (MAME is meant to be open-source), it's still pretty screwy how Digital Eclipse took credit for themselves for the development of the emulator. Just another reason why their asking price for developing compilation games for Capcom, SNK, Williams, etc. is so cheap... because it involves hardly any work on their part. I have no respect for Digital Eclipse lol!"

"Goes to show that emulation is not necessarily a bad thing. Now the way Digital Eclipse/Capcom USA applying emulation, selling it as PORTs... that is a whole different story."
lazy developers.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/586200/discussions/0/1640918469762132718/

[Taweret]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Some of the collections use emulators, specifically those developed by Digital Eclipse. Some, like the second Mega Man Legacy Collection and both Mega Man X Legacy Collections use ports.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/743890/discussions/2/1760230157498333927/
https://www.reddit.com/r/snes/comments/91wl6t/mega_man_x_legacy_collection_snes_rom_extractor/
nah i think its emulated, they didnt troubled themselves to port PS4 sf III for crossplay why they would trouble themselves to port old PS2 megaman game? in fact it uses crappy PS2 emu, and PS2 emulation is still demending, it wont run on crappy laptop thats the reason people experience sluggish gameplay and general performance issues despite the game is 2d. and is clearly PS2 emulation not the PC one, talking about RXC2.

[Taweret]

developers are so concerned about emulators because they want you to buy their game once again, they want to make money with minimal effort.
they cant prove you dont own the game really, they just are mad that you are not buying their newer games because maybe you dont like them so you have still to spend money on the games you own, is their logic.
i bet most of players who use emulators either are too poor to buy official game so is not really a big loss (they still are living promotion of their product even if they dont buy it someone who learn about it from them will) or ones who own it already, because new generations dont really play old ass games only veterans that use it as their hobby. thats also reason why they wont remaster/remake them as legit ports, because they know it wont sell as good as new game for younger audience, so their effort is minimal.
obviously devs are aiming on people who own them already, because if they bought them once they can buy it again. as long they are buying something from them is good, its profit.

i dont have problem with buying old game i love once again but not in the state i own it already, when i own bunch of ps1/ps2/ps3/dreamcast cds im not going to buy them rebundled with emulator until they add to them something vital like stable multiplayer with dedicated servers, or even gameplay improvements (is possible with real ports) but they are too lazy they bundle their games with inferior emulator and want you to pay for them like new product even though you own it.
how cool it was if they remaked some shmup games adding new stages and stuff just for pc? but is not worth for them, easy money is what is worth, why add soundtrack for free to the game menu when you can sell it as seperate dlc for half price of the game rofl.
lazy people ez money everywhere not only they are selling old games but also games that they technically didnt make only people who probably dont anymore work in the company, so yeah supporting them with your money is quite pointless, especially if you legally own said product they dont want to impove old games, they dont make retro games anymore only modern casual junk.
so make mind if you buy these old games you pay for crappy emulator license if you already own it on physical form. if you dont, well, buy it extract it, and use with BETTER emulator.

good example is newest so called contra "collection", why its lacking REBIRTH contra? (and supposedly playstation one) because obviously it is emulator and rom, EMULATOR AND ROM, why otherwise not include REBIRTH? because they are afraid it wont run optimal on crappy laptops that can run nes/snes emulation and these old emulators are cheap to acquire while the new ones are more complex so they dont want to complicate it. in fact they are too arrogant to pay for good emulators to run their own games. so they ban any mention of emulators that are better than their crap bundled with old rom-dumps. nintendo was even so arrogant to the point that they would download their rom from internet dumped by someone else and sell it in store, they are lazy, so lazy that its disgusting. i still own contra carts, mario etc. at this day and age rom dumping is not a problem. they pretend to be good example of authority to follow but in fact they have dirt under their fingernails. they dont want to compete with better emulators, they want to sweep them under the rug, and keep cheating their customers.

[Flpstrike]

They could atleast charge less money for those badly emulated games, I'm not paying 10 BRL for most of that emulators / emulated games, I can't even use a damn controller on Tomb Raider 1 !

[Dgo]

Pretty sure the following are emulated too:
C64 & AMIGA Classix Remakes Sixpack
https://store.steampowered.com/app/679640/C64__AMIGA_Classix_Remakes_Sixpack/
C64 & AMIGA Classix Remakes Sixpack 2
https://store.steampowered.com/app/751680/C64__AMIGA_Classix_Remakes_Sixpack_2/
ColecoVision Flashback
https://store.steampowered.com/app/529860/ColecoVision_Flashback/

[Mr. X from DGN]

Viper: PS1 title (Uses PCSXR) : (Company: Throwback Entertainment. It seems that Piko Interactive is also involved)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1140530/Viper/






Galencia: A 2017 Commodore 64 Game: (Author: Jason Aldred)

https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Galencia

https://www.protovision.games/games/galencia.php?language=en

https://galencia.itch.io/galencia


- The release on itch(dot)io is a .zip file (Galencia V1.5 .zip) with some stuff in it like a galencia .d64 rom file, some old beta versions of the game , some pictures, some wallpapers, etc... It does not include any emulation software.


- The Game was released on Steam on June 22, 2018. The Steam release is emulated. It uses VICE :

https://store.steampowered.com/app/887510/Galencia/






Micro Mages: A new Game developed for the Nes: (Company: Morphcat Games UG)

https://micromages.fandom.com/wiki/Micro_Mages

http://morphcat.de/micromages/

https://morphcatgames.itch.io/micromages


- The Game was released on Steam on May 1, 2019. The Steam release is a PC version,
but there is also a Nes rom file (Micro Mages .nes) in the Game's Directory.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1065020/Micro_Mages/






Iridion II: GBA title (Uses Mednafen) : (Company: Majesco Entertainment. It seems that Piko Interactive is also involved)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1132230/Iridion_II/

*Update: This Game is now also being sold on GOG:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/iridion_ii






Iridion 3D: GBA title (Uses Mednafen) : (Company: Majesco Entertainment. It seems that Piko Interactive is also involved)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1132220/Iridion_3D/

*Update: This Game is now also being sold on GOG:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/iridion_3d






Motor Mash: PS1 version (I'm not sure what Emulator is used for this) : (Company: Piko Interactive)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1257950/Motor_Mash/

*Update: This Game is now also being sold on GOG:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/motor_mash







Canon - Legend of the New Gods: Sega Genesis title (Uses Mednafen) : (Company: Piko Interactive)

https://pikointeractive.com/#!/Canon-Legends-Of-The-New-Gods-Genesis/p/132666164/category=14008387

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1257920/Canon__Legend_of_the_New_Gods/

*Update: This Game is now also being sold on GOG:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/canon_legend_of_the_new_gods








Zero Tolerance: Sega Genesis title (Uses Mednafen) : (Company: Piko Interactive)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1257930/Zero_Tolerance/

*Update: This Game is now also being sold on GOG:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/zero_tolerance







Blender Bros: GBA title (Uses Mednafen) : (Company: Piko Interactive)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1137680/Blender_Bros/








Lizard: A new Game developed for the Nes: (Author: Brad Smith)

http://lizardnes.com/

https://rainwarrior.itch.io/lizard


- The Game was released on Steam on February 6, 2018. The Steam release is a PC version:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/400280/Lizard/


But there are 3 other versions available as free DLC for people who do own the Game on Steam: (These versions will be added to the Game's directory, but they do not include any emulation software to play it.)


- Nes Rom:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000890/Lizard_NES_ROM/


- Dos version:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1000910/Lizard_DOS_Version/


- Snes Rom:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2158340/Lizard_SNES_ROM/

[Callipos]

Old bitter people will never let RA release on Steam because they want to sell them with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ outdated emulators disguised as genuine PC releases. Did I get the point of the thread? Why did you pin this? Is this an answer to people asking why it hasn't been released yet?

[TechWolfie]

Originally posted by Callipos:

<REDACTED TO PREVENT ABUSE >:( >

For those returning, let me sum it up again, the whole point of the thread is to provide ammo for the moderators on this community hub to people who don't get the idea that Steam doesn't mind having emulators on its platform, and the fact that the developers are currently sidetracked due to this outbreak and other stuff like the main RA program itself and the multiple cores. So people really should stop rushing the developers. We don't want another Fallout 76.

(There, you like my new response? Still not going to change my outlook on people who think its funny to rush developers.)

[Callipos]

I didn't report your post nor was I answering directly to you. My previous post was the whole vibe I got from this thread. I'm also against rushing devs.I don't need RA to be on Steam to be able to use it. That's not to say I'm against it. I came here to check if it was released yet.

For those returning, let me sum it up again, the whole point of the thread is to provide ammo for the moderators on this community hub to people who don't get the idea that Steam doesn't mind having emulators on its platform

I don't think most of those listed games specifically state that they are emulator+rom. The player is unaware unless they know about these things or they go into files to inspect it. If you ask me this thread can be used as an ammo against RA presence as well since devs are still able to make money off their old games via packaging it with an emulator. That's why I was surprised it was pinned. Maybe add your summing up to the main post too. I don't think it is as apparent there.

[TechWolfie]

Originally posted by Callipos:

Maybe add your summing up to the main post too. I don't think it is as apparent there.

I think you find that I did sum it up. In the main title. There. I think my comment towards Nintendo labelling the R4 as a "copying device" when in reality its a homebrew cart to run unsigned code also makes this point very clear.

Originally posted by Callipos:

If you ask me this thread can be used as an ammo against RA presence as well since devs are still able to make money off their old games via packaging it with an emulator. That's why I was surprised it was pinned.

Its only one game though. RA could very well look through the Steam directory, look for unpacked ROMs (Like so with the old XCOM games and the SEGA Mega Drive classics) and then add them to the ROM list. RA is more like a way to play all your ROMs in one place and have more features than the developers for SEGA would put in. Forget Nintendo though, they are too butthurt to let their pride be "hurt" by people who just want to enjoy their old games on a system that WORKS.

Originally posted by Callipos:

I didn't report your post nor was I answering directly to you. My previous post was the whole vibe I got from this thread. I'm also against rushing devs.I don't need RA to be on Steam to be able to use it. That's not to say I'm against it. I came here to check if it was released yet.

Except no-one else reported my posts before when I called people Fallout 76 fan boys and idiots... Look at my previous posts on the community hub. They haven't been reported.

[Callipos]

I just told you that I didn't report your post lol. Believe what you want to. I've never played Fallout nor am I interested in the series. Maybe look for someone who is playing Fallout if you want to find out who reported you. I don't think mods would disclose who reported you but they might tell you that I didn't.

Btw, I know how RA works. I've used it myself and I don't have anything against it releasing on Steam. I'm for it if anything.

[Notus]

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/14082/Dreamcast_Collection/

Are these games emulated? I couldn't find any info online.

[Tobi.byte]

I created a list for this. :)
And I'm happy about more. :D + Curator with all retros from 19xx to 2006 (W.I.P.)
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/25622578-For-Retro/lists/

[AN BIFFED ELF!!!!]

Originally posted by Notus:

https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/14082/Dreamcast_Collection/

Are these games emulated? I couldn't find any info online.

All native ports (of ports of ports)