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But if you really like extreme oversimplification, Persona games in a nutshell is a mix of dating sim and dungeon crawler elements. Or dungeon crawler with dating sim elements.
There's no open world at all and your actions are restricted by calendar and pre-determined story script.
Nothing to be taken so personally dude, don't worry i'm not comparing the 2, i'm just describing my own feeling towards the artstyle. Which is anime. Both are anime style, which i don't like.
So i was looking for a serious answer in case i was missing some very good story and/or very good gameplay.
In the second part of your comment i can already feel it's something i won't enjoy, but i was still curious to know more about it because of the "overwhelmingly positive" reviews on Steam.
I guess it's truly from fanboys in the end.
Second i play this game because of nolstagia, i played Original version of Persona 4,
Third the reason i love this game over Genshin Impact or any modern open world games because of "turn based system", even Final Fantasy left that long time ago and keep sticking with action based system, also Persona 4 Golden is not open world, i am prefer closed world but i have many choices to do grinding (yep there are over 8 different dungeons to explore with in this game), yes i do love grinding! But if u prefer puzzle dungeon better start off with persona 5 royal because literally Persona 4 golden is not puzzle dungeon, it's more like straight dungeon with different colored monsters, also most people call dungeon in Persona 4 golden as dull (i agree)
About story i don't really care because if someone want enjoy full story of modern persona, better start off read manga or at least watch the anime first (yes i had watched all Persona 3, 4 and 5 the animation), i am more to gameplay e-s-p-e-c-i-a-l-l-y its "turn-based", if persona 6 is action based then i guess persona 5 royal will be my last game from persona franchise.
So persona 4 golden is a re-release of persona 4 that was released on the ps2. Persona 4 golden was released on the vita and now it is on Steam. Persona 4 golden is standalone and you don't need to play other persona games to understand this.
Basic story: You play as the protagonist who you can name, you arrive in a small little town called Inaba, to live with your uncle and cousin because you parents are doing something. But then people start dying, it turns into a little bit of a murder mystery. While you are at school, you are befriended by some people who will be important later. Then you hear about a rumour called the midnight channel. The rumour says that if you look at an turned off tv at midnight while it is raining, you will see your soulmate appear on the TV. You decide to try it out of boredom. You see a girl but you can't quite make out who it is. Then you get closer and start actually getting sucked into the tv but due to how small the tv is, you make it out. Then you tell your new friends about it at school. Also everyone saw the same girl on the tv during the midnight channel and now she is dead. You go into the tv at a shop called Junes and discover a world inside the TV and monster things called shadows. Then you find that you have the power to summon a physical manifestation of your will that known as a persona. These persona just so happen to be mythological and historical figures and gods and demons from all around the world. You then work with your friends, who also get persona after you face the dark side of their personalities, in a boss battle to solve the murder mystery. The plot is decent, no plotholes (that I noticed) and it isn't exactly obvious who the culprit is and you do actually have to figure out who it is by the end of the game, otherwise you get a bad ending.
Gameplay: Divided into two parts. the dungeon crawling and social sim. In dungeon crawling, you will go up a procedurally generated dungeon and fight enemies. During battle, you can use your persona to do special attacks. Most enemies have a weakness, if you hit that weakness, the enemy will be knocked down and you will get another turn. Knock down all the enemies and you will be able to do an all out attack which damages all of them. You can also fuse persona you have gathered with other persona to make new and more powerful persona. The persona you have equipped to your main character (your party memebers cannot change personas as they only have one), will also change what you resist and are weak to. The enemies can also knock you down but can't do the all out attacks. Also, someone will get thrown into the tv and you have a limited amount of days to save them. You have to make it up big dungeon to get to the final floor to save them. If you fail, they die and it's sad and stuff, oh and a game over.
Now for the social sim part, during the day you can hang out with specific characters. These characters all tell their own unique story and are just really cool to hear about. But they also each refer to a specific arcana such as magician, strength, hanged, fool etc. When you hang out with them you can level up their social link. The more a social link of a specific arcana is leveled up, the more of a boost you will get when you make a persona that relates to that arcana. For example, priestess social link Yukiko at level 8 will make persona of the priestess arcana level up by a huge amount when I make them. And when you raise these to rank 10, the max rank, you get to make a very powerful persona who is the ultimate persona of that arcana.
That is persona 4 golden, simplified. I like it for the game play and characters that you come to know and care about. As for the whole "dating sim". it really isn't. There are some characters you can romance in the social links, but it really doesn't do anything and just has a few extra scenes.
This might help you decide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0rJafN26c8&ab_channel=SuperButterBuns
Thank you very much, that was a very "detailed summary", appreciate. Wasn't looking for a review but more about the reasons on why this game is praised so much, especially by its fans. Anyway, your explanation helped me figure out a bit why the game could be good, it seems like peculiar.
- A mature version of Pokemon, I guess. Though I suppose the Shin Megami Tensei franchise (which the Persona series are part of) can be considered as such.
- It's a JRPG in a contemporary setting which I'm more into as opposed to fantasy settings.
- The game being a social sim and how it progresses with the day-by-day calendar system is also what fascinates me about this game.
- This game also taught me about Jungian psychology which is what the concept of Persona is based on. As someone who's curious about the human psyche, I find this interesting.
- I really appreciate this game's theme of accepting yourself.
- I enjoyed the memorable cast of characters, they really feel they are your friends.
- The soundtrack is really great too. I like it enough that I sometimes hear it outside of this game, extended even.
For the record, I'm not a big fan of anime stuff. I'm rather indifferent to it.Each Persona has their own strength(s) and weakness(es), with types of attacks being more or less effective against certain enemies.
Not to get too personal but I feel like this game has healed me mentally.
I came here because I heard this game is good, so I played it, and I very much enjoyed it.
This is coming from the same guy who irrationally calls other people "shills" for disagreeing on how you think this game is a bad PC port. What a joke.
Now that is a gross oversimplification.
Dating sim is NOT the right term to describe the slice of life aspect of this game unless you somehow consider hanging out with your friends as "dating".
It IS a broken and cheap port with zero support from developers. Only a shill would argue about that (and yes that also includes "but the game works for me and must be working for everyone else" ignorant shills).
You can defend Atlus all you want but facts speak for themselves:
- Last real game update\patch was released more than two years ago https://steamcommunity.com/app/1113000/eventcomments/2943620809066694147
- Even with that patch, multiple crash issues were not addressed and Atlus West representative never even got back to this forum. Just completely stopped posting and moved on to other games.
- Post your bugs thread is tremendous, accumulating almost 400 pages with none of the issues reported fixed in the past 2 years https://steamcommunity.com/app/1113000/discussions/0/2441461920666185673/
- It's been 4 months since AMD 6000 series owners cant play P4G properly without downgrading their driver to specific older driver version. Atlus never addressed this in 4 months (most gaming companies do at least something to address issues with drivers, but obviously not Atlus) - they simply don't care about paying customers.
It supposed to be gross and oversimplified. Gotta start somewhere when completely unrelated game was picked as the closest point of comparison.
whats my appeal for it, well first of all i really like coming-of-age stories and this is a really good one, the characters are likable and it makes me feel good after a hard day, soundtrack is also really good
i seriously cant wait for next week when P5 Royale comes out and for next year when persona 3 comes out
It's just as bad as a fanboy calling other people "haters" for giving the slightest critique to their beloved franchise, because you are reminding me of that other guy from someplace else.
Aside from that, using "shill" like a buzzword makes that word worthless as it loses its meaning since you're using it to describe people who don't agree with you when they don't even care nor support the company's questionable practices that you despise.
There's also a fact where plenty of other games haven't been updated for years with bugs still in tact but not enough to the point that makes those games notoriously unplayable.
Another fact is that big/AAA companies don't usually care about the Steam forums and if they did, it usually lasts until a year or two after release. This forum is no exception.
I'm not saying it's good for these companies to ignore their forums or not update their games but that's just how reality is and Sega/Atlus isn't any particularly different, just as bad as them.
Meanwhile, there's 41,920+ positive reviews of that game with tenths and even over a hundred hours of playtime that didn't mention any technical issues as much.
Heck, I've seen a recent review that mentions about technical issues from launch day being fixed and can now enjoy the game after leaving it in their backlog for a couple years.
It's almost as if the majority of people can experience the game just fine and this particular forum is an outlier. Everyone who can enjoy the game without any issues have no reason to post on this forum unless it's to actually discuss about the game itself.
Mind you, not everyone is interested in discussing on the Steam forums like ever at all.
Again, I'm not denying that some people do get issues with the game, I even had the crashing issue too until I fixed it, but if you're going to make another counterargument about the majority of players being able to enjoy this game with no issues then please, remember what I've said in another thread because I do not want to repeat all this stupid ♥♥♥♥ here.
That being said, it's interesting that you seem to not have responded to that guy in that thread who have provided solutions to other people's problems that you have posted.
But fine, go call us shills. It only serves to make you sound more embarrassing anyway.
As I've said in another thread that you seem to not have paid attention to, it's fixable and the updated drivers affects more than just Persona 4.I recall getting random sudden black screens (display driver crashes) when I'm not even playing any game and instead just watching YouTube or generally using a browser until I downgraded back. I've also heard reports of VR headsets stopped working in the new updates.
AMD is not kidding when they recommended 22.5.1 for still being the most stable driver.
And you thought the best way to answer OP's answer is to be a little misleading?
Or is this one of your stupid schemes to get people away from this game just because you deluded yourself to think this PC port is the absolute worst that detracts everything?
To think you would've succeeded if it weren't for me and a couple other people to properly explain why we find this game appealing...
"But it's OvErWhELmInGlY PoSiTiVe" - tells the ignorant shill, while some poor player makes 1000th fresh "my game crashes" thread in the community forum.
In random order :
-Kickass music
-Engaging characters
-With character development
-In fact, tackling often serious issues, personal or societal
-Fun, rewarding combat system
-Unravelling not one but basically multiple mysteries
-Well-crafted emotiional moments
-Set in a very good message of self-acceptance, usually
Loads more but I just woke up ;_;.
This game is absolutely not for the twitchy, braindead cod-player type xbox basic starter person who WANTS ACTION AND WANTS IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!
The game starts slow - without fast forwarding, you will be introduced to the setting, the character, supporting characters, the premise of multiple things, over anywhere between 1 and 2 hours - depending on your reading speed - before you're even thrust into a tutorial battle, if you don't use the Golden-exclusive text fast forward.
The game respects your intelligence, for the most part, something few games do nowadays - and in return for that respect, it asks for and in fact, expects a similar respect-based patience\investment in it to get going.
But looking past those few moments (and they are few) you can see a game that was made with a lot of passion by the devs. Past the anime moments and jokes you get a very fun and engaging turn-based RPG that improves itself with potential strategy's and combos as you level up and develop your party.
Additionally, combat is only half the game. The other half of the game has a heavy focus on time managment where you need to try to balance hanging out and developing the stories of the side/major NPC's (a few who are party members) while also developing the protagonist and his own personal skills.
And the characters themselves? While I have my favorites, they are all memorable in their own right, some are better than others, but they all have their charm.
Honestly, I'd recommend this series as a whole. P4 has it's problems and might not have aged as gracefully as say, P5, but there is a lot of fun to be found in P4 if you can look past the tropes. If nothing else, I recommend waiting for a sale (I'm sure Steam will have one for the holidays soon,) and picking up P4 for ten or twenty dollars.