Persona 4 Golden

Persona 4 Golden

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HARELY Jun 6, 2023 @ 8:51pm
Shadow rise doesn't make any sense to me.
I thought about that a lot, If what Rise really thinks, is that Risette, the celebrity, is actually fake, how come Rise accepts all her personalities as part of her?(Ristte, and the timid Rise,) i mean, if her shadow thinks that Risette is fake, (that her shadow is fake) Rise was supposed to accepts her shadow, that Risette is fake, and not that 2 of her personalities are her (they be Ristte, and the timid Rise which you can see at the tofu shop.)

also when shadow rise says here: https://youtu.be/oZl4pLhqBtc?t=141 this: "like that's even close to what you are really thinking you little skank!" why would rise, think of showing her body?
generally i really don't get her shadow at all.
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Nibbie Jun 8, 2023 @ 8:59am 
I think you don't really understand what Shadows are. They aren't what you "really think", they are specifically just the parts of you that you suppress, that you don't want to acknowledge. In Rise's case, these are thoughts like "you are just a fake, everyone likes the act you put on, but no one actually likes you" and "you would get so much publicity if you bared all". Accepting your shadow is just acknowledging that you have these thoughts, that they are a real part of you. It is not saying that those thoughts are correct, or that you want to act on those thoughts. Kanji didn't turn into a raging homosexual after accepting his shadow, right?
HARELY Jun 8, 2023 @ 10:06am 
Ok so please correct me if I’m wrong. after a lot of thought and questions, I think, That shadow Rise is something like this:

First, we need to understand that her biggest fear is that she will not be seen as her true self, she became an idol in order to make friends. but because she is an idol, people started seeing her as Risette, the fake celebrity. Her shadow represent her true self, being Rise the timid one(which you can see at the tofu shop) and her idol side, which she supressed, because if she will accept that they both her, she will admit that up until now she was fake, when she was Risette only, or Rise the timid one only,

SO HER SUPPRESION IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE HAS TWO FAKE PERSONALITIES.

At the beginning when Rise encountered her shadow, her shadow is seen as Risette, the fake celebrity, which says to the “timid Rise”, “you want to show your stuff, don’t ya” now because the timid Rise was suppressing her idol side when she first came to Inaba, her shadow is seen as Risette. With the quote above, her shadow indicates that Rise needs to accept that Risette, the fake celebrity is part of herself. That Rise likes to be shown like an idol.

And after that her shadow says the opposite, that Risette is fake, that when Rise is taking the facade of Risette in her life, she is fake just like timid Rise. Because when she is on stage, she acts only how she has been told, and not combine it with “timid rise”

Because of the fear, that rise is fake and always has different fake facades, she doesn’t want to accept that both are fake, and that she was acting all along. Her shadow wants her to accept that she was faking both personalities, that Risette is fake, and that timid Rise is fake, and that to be fully whole, she needs to combine them, and act like herself.

So, is this right In your opinion?
Last edited by HARELY; Jun 8, 2023 @ 10:09am
Arifufu Jun 8, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
she just can't be honest with herself. Rise, Risette, idol world or whatever is part of herself, the fact she still continue her idol is proof finally she accepts all her other self. About her shadow, it's only represent that half of herself tired about idol world, she just need take a break. I think there's no "fake Rise" all of those are part of her, Rise Kujikawa.

I never found an honest celebrity btw without doing some flexing or do some pranks in the internet to gain money, so yeah Rise is a common idol but hopefully Rise never did flexing her money nor did any prank, she only afraid that everybody only see her as "Risette" but at least IT proved it wrong, there's someone near her that see her as actual "Rise" as friend.

Also no matter what Risette already part of her life, just like your Steam username Harely or my Arifufu i think both usernames aren't our real names, but still those usernames part of our life, Risette kinda like our fake account in the internet.
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Date Posted: Jun 6, 2023 @ 8:51pm
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