is persona 4 golden a sequel to persona 4 or just the exact same with some extra features

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Uh i need to clarify something before this thread becomes another thing, I want to know if buying this game is like getting persona 4 but with more content added at the end of the game, or is it like p5r where its a totally different game with different gameplay, and joker has already met his friends and all.

Well P4G as the others mentioned before, is the extended version of Persona 4. Like P5 Royal it includes all the content from the original game and add more content to the story.

Just to clarify, P5R starts almost in the exact same way as the original, your character doesn't start as a phantom thief from the first day, you still has to play the story to know the other party members. In P5R case, the new content included new SL's such as Goro Akechi, Kasumi Yoshizawa.A new gallery called Thives Den. A new dungeon was also included in Royal (palace) and a new section of Mementos.

But i thought that p5r makes the gameplay completely different. Do you mean its also an extended ver of persona 5 too?

[Z|Hades]

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Well P4G as the others mentioned before, is the extended version of Persona 4. Like P5 Royal it includes all the content from the original game and add more content to the story.

Just to clarify, P5R starts almost in the exact same way as the original, your character doesn't start as a phantom thief from the first day, you still has to play the story to know the other party members. In P5R case, the new content included new SL's such as Goro Akechi, Kasumi Yoshizawa.A new gallery called Thives Den. A new dungeon was also included in Royal (palace) and a new section of Mementos.

But i thought that p5r makes the gameplay completely different. Do you mean its also an extended ver of persona 5 too?

Yes, Royal only expands the story and add some features. For someone who never played a persona game they can even look the very same game. But Royal is the way to go, there's so much to do in that game that I got the plat trophy but there's still unlockables in the den for me to unlock.

[jacobtan]

Both P4G and P5R insert content into the original games. It's just that the insertion is done differently. For what it's worth, I prefer the way P4G did it, but opinions vary. There are also changes in game mechanics. Taken together, you may end up playing P4G and P5R somewhat differently from P4 and P5.

[Corey]

In my opinion: P5R > P4G > P5 > P4.

Going back to vanilla P4 is kinda painful after all the great changes to gameplay made in P4G, and the Adachi social link is great imo. The gap between P4 and P4G is larger than the gap between P5R and P5 to the point where getting P5 vanilla isn't even a bad choice these days considering Royal is a full 60$ and vanilla is 20$ (once Royal goes on sale for 40$ though I would say it's worth it).

Having a small gap between P5 and P5R isn't necessarily a bad thing though considering P5's gameplay was already top notch and Royal just makes some minor QoL changes.

[BlackDragon]

I'm not sure if people realize just HOW MUCH of the stuff in P4G was added in the 'Golden' remake. It's a LONG list, to the point where I'm quite happy I never got around to playing the original P4. Check it out here, and feel your eyebrows shoot up as you realize that the scooters, the garden, the beach, Okina City, even GOING OUT AT NIGHT is all things that were added in P4G...

https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Persona_4_Golden

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Ok, i think i finally get it but if what im thinking is correct, why buy p5 or p4 when you can get the extended ver like p5r and p4g?

[jacobtan]

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Ok, i think i finally get it but if what im thinking is correct, why buy p5 or p4 when you can get the extended ver like p5r and p4g?

For me, I have P5, but I disliked the game a lot and refused to pay any more for P5R. When the pricing was announced, some players balked at the price too.

For P4G, it used to be a PS Vita exclusive. I got a used Vita for P4G, then double-dipped for the PC version for convenience.

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Ok, i think i finally get it but if what im thinking is correct, why buy p5 or p4 when you can get the extended ver like p5r and p4g?

For me, I have P5, but I disliked the game a lot and refused to pay any more for P5R. When the pricing was announced, some players balked at the price too.

For P4G, it used to be a PS Vita exclusive. I got a used Vita for P4G, then double-dipped for the PC version for convenience.

So there is no point in getting p5 if you have p5r yes?

[jacobtan]

If you have P5R, it is the definitive version so you needn't waste money on P5. You can simply avoid the new content if you don't care for it. However, it will still have the QoL changes so it won't play exactly like P5.

[Corey]

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If you have P5R, it is the definitive version so you needn't waste money on P5. You can simply avoid the new content if you don't care for it. However, it will still have the QoL changes so it won't play exactly like P5.

Considering nothing is 'taken' away or censored in P5R more than in P5, or in P4G more than P4, it's safe to say there is 0 reason in 2020 to buy either vanilla versions with the new versions out.

Of course, adding some QoL changes and a single new dungeon shouldn't warrant releasing an entirely new GAME instead of a expansion dlc pack for the old players. For Golden is was understandable because it was ported from PS2 to Vita, but for P5R... they literally charge 60 bucks for a Persona 5.5 on the SAME CONSOLE THE OG RELEASED ON. It's really stupid.

[jacobtan]

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If you have P5R, it is the definitive version so you needn't waste money on P5. You can simply avoid the new content if you don't care for it. However, it will still have the QoL changes so it won't play exactly like P5.

Considering nothing is 'taken' away or censored in P5R more than in P5, or in P4G more than P4, it's safe to say there is 0 reason in 2020 to buy either vanilla versions with the new versions out.

Of course, adding some QoL changes and a single new dungeon shouldn't warrant releasing an entirely new GAME instead of a expansion dlc pack for the old players. For Golden is was understandable because it was ported from PS2 to Vita, but for P5R... they literally charge 60 bucks for a Persona 5.5 on the SAME CONSOLE THE OG RELEASED ON. It's really stupid.

Well, I guess if someone really feels very strongly about those two guys... Maybe he might want P5 over P5R? Ha!

As for the dlc issue, Atlus made a smart business move. For players who like P5, they will pony up the time and money anyway.

[Corey]

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Considering nothing is 'taken' away or censored in P5R more than in P5, or in P4G more than P4, it's safe to say there is 0 reason in 2020 to buy either vanilla versions with the new versions out.

Of course, adding some QoL changes and a single new dungeon shouldn't warrant releasing an entirely new GAME instead of a expansion dlc pack for the old players. For Golden is was understandable because it was ported from PS2 to Vita, but for P5R... they literally charge 60 bucks for a Persona 5.5 on the SAME CONSOLE THE OG RELEASED ON. It's really stupid.

Well, I guess if someone really feels very strongly about those two guys... Maybe he might want P5 over P5R? Ha!

As for the dlc issue, Atlus made a smart business move. For players who like P5, they will pony up the time and money anyway.

Well, like I said earlier, the gap between P4G and P4 is way bigger than the gap between P5R and P5, and considering their prices atm, getting P5 isn't necessarily a bad idea.

In P4G, like someone in this thread earlier said, they added so many new and great features that are basically essential to enjoying the experience that is P4. Going from P4G to P4 is really hard and P4 just isn't fun to playthrough after playing Golden. That's how much Golden added. Golden was also dropped in an era where re-releasing newer versions of games was the norm, and it was ported to a brand new console on top of that, so I wouldn't object to them charging full price for it.

Meanwhile in P5R, after having played P5, the jump isn't nearly as big. Sure, the QoL changes are always welcome like refilling ammo after each fight, or having baton pass unlocked for everyone from the get-go, but asking 60 dollars for what is essentially the same game with an expansion when the base game is currently 20 dollars is a tall order imo, and in this day and age of massive expansions like Blood and Wine being released, there really shouldn't be an excuse for Atlus to not release Royal's changes in a 20 dollars dlc pack (hell they could even make it 30 dollars if they wanted to) and they might even make more money then because more people would be willing to pay for that over buying the same game again for 60$.

But then again what do I know, whenever I tell people to wait for a heavy sale to buy Royal if they already played P5, I get downvoted to hell and people say that paying full price for the same game is 'definitely worth it'. The only reason Atlus still makes money off this is thanks to dumb Persona fans.

[mom i cant find my 3ds]

I think i got my answers and im sure this is the last question before i let this thread to die but is p5 scramble a different game unlike p5r and p4g which are the base game with some dlc?

[Corey]

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I think i got my answers and im sure this is the last question before i let this thread to die but is p5 scramble a different game unlike p5r and p4g which are the base game with some dlc?

Scramble is basically Persona Warriors, it plays very differently, and is a cannon direct sequel to Persona 5.

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I think i got my answers and im sure this is the last question before i let this thread to die but is p5 scramble a different game unlike p5r and p4g which are the base game with some dlc?

Scramble is basically Persona Warriors, it plays very differently, and is a cannon direct sequel to Persona 5.

Is there a sequel like that for p4?