Gearing up for Margaret.

[WooshaQ]

Hello, I'm currently on 30/01 (NG+) and i'm preparing for Margaret encounter. Question is if by any chance my setup seems to weak can I get better gear just before the fight by killing the reaper or do i have to grind before Marie rescue?

[John Johnson]

Reaper gear isnt required but may help

You have infinite time to grind for her, she's available on the top of heaven, during the last day while true ending

You are forced to enter the tv this day and meet her, but you need to enter the velvet room a second time after Igor gives you the orb of clarity



Are you going solo or full party?

Anyways, persona's needed most I think are:
Yoshi tsune
-Absorb fire
-Absorb ice
-Absorb elec
-Absorb wind
-Hassou tobi
-arms master
-apt pupil (OR firm stance if you dont have divine pillar, to reduce almighty damage)
-Enduring soul

Trumpeter
-Absorb fire
-Absorb elec
-Absorb wind
-Enduring soul
-Power charge
-Heat riser
-Spell master / firm stance / absorb phys
-Deabilitate

Any persona which repels phys, for this aharabaki
-Absorb fire
-Absorb ice
-Absorb elec
-Absorb wind
-Auto-Maraku
-Auto-Mataru
-Auto-Masuku
-Power charge

These are what I used to solo margaret, but you could change anything. If you didnt go for absorb skill cards and there isn't enough time, you can use https://arantius.github.io/persona-fusion-calculator/4golden.html#/list/name (fusion calculator) to just fuse in the required skills. You also need to have maxed out the chariot link to fuse yoshi tsune (futunushi is one of his required for the fusion)

[1337Walrus]

Yosh*tsune should be your primary powerhouse as usual, although if you can give Izanagi-no-Okami a good movepool his above-average resistances can help tank while damaging.

I'd at minimum grab the Protagonist's sword from the Reaper, and maybe fight him again solo to get a Godly Robe for him.

[WooshaQ]

I'm just for the achievement so I'll go full party. I'm already maxed out when it comes to all slink except hunger. I have yoshitsune but I need those absorb skills. How beatable is she without it? I was thinking about Naoto wall skill with ring that halves so cost. But that's just a theory.

[Mel]

Beatable, on normal at least. Not having any does make things noticeably harder since you rely on dodges and end up spending a turn for healing and whatever, but not impossible.

[1337Walrus]

Originally posted by WooshaQ:

I'm just for the achievement so I'll go full party. I'm already maxed out when it comes to all slink except hunger. I have yoshitsune but I need those absorb skills. How beatable is she without it? I was thinking about Naoto wall skill with ring that halves so cost. But that's just a theory.

Very beatable, but she's probably a little harder than the Twins, primarily because she eventually uses Power Charge > Hassou Tobi that's all but guaranteed to kill everyone unless they somehow can reflect/null Phys, and uses a 9999 damage Megidolaon every 25 turns.

It's fairly simple to make an "invincible" Yosh*tsune. You ideally would want Absorb Fire, Absorb Ice, Absorb Wind, and Null Dark. However, on Margaret's phases where she uses Electric attacks, she Absorbs elec, so you might want to drop, for example, Arms Master for Absorb Elec if you want the battle to be as painless as possible. (Yoshi naturally repels Elec.)

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by 1337Walrus:

Originally posted by WooshaQ:

I'm just for the achievement so I'll go full party. I'm already maxed out when it comes to all slink except hunger. I have yoshitsune but I need those absorb skills. How beatable is she without it? I was thinking about Naoto wall skill with ring that halves so cost. But that's just a theory.

Very beatable, but she's probably a little harder than the Twins, primarily because she eventually uses Power Charge > Hassou Tobi that's all but guaranteed to kill everyone unless they somehow can reflect/null Phys, and uses a 9999 damage Megidolaon every 25 turns.

It's fairly simple to make an "invincible" Yosh*tsune. You ideally would want Absorb Fire, Absorb Ice, Absorb Wind, and Null Dark. However, on Margaret's phases where she uses Electric attacks, she Absorbs elec, so you might want to drop, for example, Arms Master for Absorb Elec if you want the battle to be as painless as possible. (Yoshi naturally repels Elec.)

Margaret never uses light / dark, dont bother with those.

[WooshaQ]

So perhaps I'll go with Yoshi, with all four elemental absorbtion, I will have time to extract the skill from personas. Though it is unlikely I will want to gring to get money to buy additional cards from velvet room. How much of a pain would be a single Yoshi with absorption and a regular Trumper would be assuming I'll be fighting with team of four?

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by WooshaQ:

So perhaps I'll go with Yoshi, with all four elemental absorbtion, I will have time to extract the skill from personas. Though it is unlikely I will want to gring to get money to buy additional cards from velvet room. How much of a pain would be a single Yoshi with absorption and a regular Trumper would be assuming I'll be fighting with team of four?

Grinding money isn't hard once you reach Naoto's dungeon, go to floor 6 with naoto, a persona with auto-matarukaja, and a persona with megidoloan, and use both almighty attacks at golden hands, switch between floor 5 and 6 frequently for them to spawn.

[WooshaQ]

i know this trick, sadly due to time limitation i was able to get all 4 absorbs, arm master but had to miss out on endouring soul, though i have endure that will revive me with 1hp. i guess tomorrow will tell if this will do, as right now am about to finish marie.

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by WooshaQ:

i know this trick, sadly due to time limitation i was able to get all 4 absorbs, arm master but had to miss out on endouring soul, though i have endure that will revive me with 1hp.

Endure is a bit risky but it probably won't end up killing you, as long as the only times you are dying are her 9999 megolodoans every 25 turns, from my memory, she wont trigger almighty damage right after, so just draining your health back from her elemental damage she uses right after should work.

[John Johnson]

Another thing - I really hope you have maxed out rise's social link because she can revive you personally to full health and also block an attack to your entire party if it kills one of them.

[WooshaQ]

Yes, I was aiming for all slink and books on this playthrough this in missing few days to extract the cards.