*Spoilers* So what exactly is with the person in the fog?

[amills1]

It's pretty much implied it is the killer hanging out waiting to see if another victim appears. There are a few problems with that theory though:

a) It's hard to see through fog even in the daytime, let along at night. So how did they expect to spot a body hanging on a rooftop over such a large area?

b) The killer, seemingly, knows who was tossed into the TV. He also knows when they were rescued. So why would he expect to find them dead?

c) Does the killer even know about the fog indicating time had run out for anyone in the TV? The first two killings happened while it was foggy but that was hardly enough to work out the correlation. The team needed Teddie to tell them specifically.

[Bisquetz]

MASSIVE SPOILERS BELOW ONLY LOOK IF YOU'VE COMPLETED THE GAME AND GOT THE TRUE GOLDEN ENDING.

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

Everything Adachi does is controlled by Ameno-sagiri, a being that's part of the game's true antagonist: Izanami-no-kami. This is how he knows everything about the other world, and you can argue that he's not bothered by the fog if a being from the other world is inside of him controlling everything.

And regarding the two hanging bodies... it's not that the bodies flew out of the other world onto the cables or something, but it's actually Adachi himself who deliberately put them there. His reason for doing so is pretty much "just for funsies", showing that he's actually quite unhinged even without Ameno-sagiri's influence on him.

p.s. i'm serious about the spoilers.
It's quite the Deus ex Machina reasoning that plugs up the holes made by your particular questions and i'm personally not a fan of it, but it answers everything. And they only got away with it because it's SMT and it fits the franchise.

[Cheezystix]

You raise some valid questions so I'll try my best to answer them in order

A) It was a foggy day when they found the first 2 victims so I'm pretty sure the killer would be able to see it too if he got close. I think the amount of fog they show in that cutscene is over dramatized in order to hide the killers identity. In reality you could probably still see a few feet in front of you.

B) It isnt 100% confirmed that the killer knows when each victim was rescued. He definitely knows who's been thrown inside though. Also what day you rescue the person is different for every player since some will be rescued faster than others. The game probably progresses under the assumption that you waited until the last day to save them.

C) It would not even need to be two to figure out that they die if they get thrown in there. If you pushed someone into the TV and later they showed up dead on a foggy day then you could easily piece two and two together to figure out that what you did killed them. The first victim was all that was needed to figure out how that worked, the second was just confirmation

[1337Walrus]

Originally posted by Cheezystix:

You raise some valid questions so I'll try my best to answer them in order

A) It was a foggy day when they found the first 2 victims so I'm pretty sure the killer would be able to see it too if he got close. I think the amount of fog they show in that cutscene is over dramatized in order to hide the killers identity. In reality you could probably still see a few feet in front of you.

They don't do a really good job of that though. The one after clearing I think either Yukiko's or Kanji's dungeon pretty clearly has Adachi's idle animation.

[Cheezystix]

Originally posted by 1337Walrus:

Originally posted by Cheezystix:

You raise some valid questions so I'll try my best to answer them in order

A) It was a foggy day when they found the first 2 victims so I'm pretty sure the killer would be able to see it too if he got close. I think the amount of fog they show in that cutscene is over dramatized in order to hide the killers identity. In reality you could probably still see a few feet in front of you.

They don't do a really good job of that though. The one after clearing I think either Yukiko's or Kanji's dungeon pretty clearly has Adachi's idle animation.

That might just be an issue with the steam version having crispier graphics. This game was originally on the vita which had waaaay worse graphics but it actually helped keep the killers Identity better hidden since it was on a smaller screen and more pixelated

[1337Walrus]

At any rate, it's pretty clearly Adachi prowling to see if the target he manipulated Namatame into pushing inside the TV was killed. It's established later in the game that Adachi was pretty much possessed by Ameno-Sagiri very shortly after his first two murders, which might've given him the power to ignore the fog, like the glasses.

[Cheezystix]

Originally posted by 1337Walrus:

At any rate, it's pretty clearly Adachi prowling to see if the target he manipulated Namatame into pushing inside the TV was killed. It's established later in the game that Adachi was pretty much possessed by Ameno-Sagiri very shortly after his first two murders, which might've given him the power to ignore the fog, like the glasses.

I think it's possible that Adachi could have been possessed by him even before the killing of the first two victims. Izanami gave the power to go into the TV to him and I think Ameno-Sagiri along with it. I also think that having him inside Adachi is what ultimately caused him to break and commit his crimes

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

Jokes on all of you, it's the lady from Souzai Daigaku, enjoy your dead shadow flesh.

On a serious note though, he was meant to be found as the main villain but as a red herring. The game is full of it and that's sort of the point, the whole thing is not HIS game, he just thinks its his. During his SL, the interactions are all very "tense", like he knows that you know that he knows about the things we've been doing. May seem innocuous during the first playthrough but if you read his stuff again, it really shows how slimey he is.

[1337Walrus]

Originally posted by Douchebag Extraordinaire:

Jokes on all of you, it's the lady from Souzai Daigaku, enjoy your dead shadow flesh.

On a serious note though, he was meant to be found as the main villain but as a red herring. The game is full of it and that's sort of the point, the whole thing is not HIS game, he just thinks its his. During his SL, the interactions are all very "tense", like he knows that you know that he knows about the things we've been doing. May seem innocuous during the first playthrough but if you read his stuff again, it really shows how slimey he is.

wydm as a red herring? As far as the game's actual 'mystery solving' goes he is the one you're looking for, all the Gods and stuff don't even come in until after you solve it.

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

The murder is not the main mystery, all the stuff about the TV, shadows, how the fog was actually, slowly but surely destroying humanity, the investigation team was so hard focused on that, that they didn't even see how people were getting affected by it during the whole year.

Even the players get so caught up in the murder mystery thing that we forget that there's a huge underlying problem with how the fog does this magical things. People just saw the fog as a conveyance for untraceable murder, but that's a drop in a bucket compared to everyone turning into shadows.