am i just bad or is this game extremley hard?

[NoobOrFeed]

i am usually not the guy whining about some games difficulty. so is it just me being bad or is this game pretty hard? i am playing on normal difficulty, fused and leveld up some personas and cant get past shadow yukiko. no way i can beat her...especially when she summons another enemy...

[Akagi]

It can be difficult if you don't know exactly what you're doing. If it makes you feel any better that's one of the hardest parts of the whole game. They made it easier in this version, but it can still be rough if it's your first time. These games reward good use of buffs and debuffs as well, so try using those more if you aren't already.

[paper_Cat]

i think you are just bad at it .try to find their weakness and use buff ,debuff etc .

[Viper]

It can be..ANd there will be times if you are unlucky will you get wiped regardless of what you do as if your main guy goes down its game over. And if you have the wrong persona with the wrong weakness and an enemy attacks with that element it might not matter how many HP you have. Make sure you guard when you know a high powered attack is coming.

[NisseDood]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Viper:

It can be..ANd there will be times if you are unlucky will you get wiped regardless of what you do as if your main guy goes down its game over. And if you have the wrong persona with the wrong weakness and an enemy attacks with that element it might not matter how many HP you have. Make sure you guard when you know a high powered attack is coming.

gotta love that ♥♥♥♥.
Lost twice on that birdcage boss from agi on Chie and then follow up on main protag doing about 130 dmg killing him.
Overall the boss was really easy because anything dangerous was predictable but that stupid combo caugt me off guard twice when it was at low hp.
That is 1 thing that is annoying with the mc dying game over.
And one reason there is no shame in using the restart floor on death because it can be tedious to do a full dungeon from a small mistake or unluckiness.

[SenMithrarin85]

sap her defence and expolit weaknesses. be sure to focus on her once the prince shows up (knock it down with lightning first though). took me several tries to beat her. people just aren't used to any semblance of challenge in jrpgs anymore.

[Oragepoilu]

Just follow a few rules ...
> MC (main character) dying mean you lose, so if you aren't overleveled always try to top off his hp bar to avoid being crit & dead (true mostly first dungeon)

> Try grind a bit : aim at having persona useful for the boss fight. Some persona have a skill "resist physical" like slime I think, pass it on another persona resisting fire and you have a good resistance combo.

> Use skill cards to add skill your persona isn't really supposed to have. Like add a bufa on a fire-themed persona so it can both resist fire and deal with ice against them (that's just an exemple)

> Low on SP ? Ignore shadows and rush the chests. Shadow cannot turn that easy and "swing" at you when they get close. They also take quite a bit of time before moving after they saw you.
Exemple : A shadow between you and a chest. Run to the right, she run after you; get the chest and run away from the left side. She won't get to you as long as you don't get stuck on a door or wall.

> First dungeon sometime have a layout for the first level that allow you to farm chest super fast.
When you enter the dungeon, you are in a small corridor with a chest quite close in front of you and a door on the right. Grab the chest, leave, come back; the layout stay the same, so you can repeat. No shadow spawn near the chest because it's too close to the entrance, and early battle don't trigger often when you open a chest.

> your hp/sp regen come mostly from after-fight car
ds. There is different rank of them (looks how much cup it have), and it's % of your hp/sp based.

> trigger after-fight card this way : if you sweep all the card once, next fight ALWAYS give you cards and you draw +2 so you can chain it. If you aren't "chaining" yet, finish a fight using an all-out attack. Don't waste mana/hp by triggering an all-out attack that isn't needed if you did a full sweep card last fight.

> Golden hand can help you grind but early you need items for them or it need to be alone and you need to do a critical (physical only then, magic don't crit) to take him down and do an all out. The other way is using item (50 fixed dmg single target are cheap in shops, and you only need 3 of them to kill one hand - but you need to buy before you go)

>Increase magic to reduce incoming magic attack, increase Endurance to reduce incoming physical damage. Using after-fight card for those stats is OK, but stats gain trough card are usually the worse option (since you ditch the persona often). Avoid persona that get low either endurance or magic.

>If you clearly see a shadow coming at you and think you might want to avoid the fight since you can't hit first, there is always the option to ask teddie to run to the next/previous area. An item also allow you to leave any time outside of fight and another allow you to flee. Use them immediatly if things aren't going your way (like the one on your team that is supposed to deal the correct type of damage get knock out or get dizzy, etc)

[BiskutMentega]

Shadow Yukiko is hard even if you have done everything right because its early game and your techniques are very limited. Don't do all-out-attack when all enemies are downed because you will need that turn to heal/debuff.

Compared to other JRPG, Persona bosses are kinda like puzzle. You have to figure out the right move at the right time instead of just brute forcing the boss with pure attack power.

[TOTALLY NOT A SKELETON]

I remember Shadow Yukiko being infuriatingly hard on the original PS2 release. Took me many tries to beat it. All I can say is to just keep trying.

[Saph]

Early on it can be pretty tough if you don't properly balance your team, especially on hard or very hard. Once you get to a new dungeon I recommend farming in the previous one until you can reliably kill the groups of 3 gold hands in a full turn or two.

Don't forget to constantly check for new Personas to fuse too. A good starting point are the fusion requests given to you by the Empress arcana. I'm currently using Matador from the second request with some really strong physical skills thanks to the Magician card and Auto-Sukukaja.

While you can beat the game with a single Persona easily, fusion cuts the tedium of grinding a lot and it helps to have multiple Personas that can cover different elements.

[Oragepoilu]

Before I forget, when you get to the second dungeon - make sure you have a persona with HAMA skill (with hama boost if possible). At the 3rd dungeon, add to your list MUDO skill.
Unless you rush social link you are the only one early that can do them, it make the game wayyyyyyy more easy in a lot of fight. Don't abuse them too much though, they cost more SP than a regular skill, and don't trigger all-out attack for cards.
Around lv20 Ippon & Principality are quite good to have around for that reason.

[KornPortable]

early dungeon always hard because you don't have access to many skill/persona
but since you have fought her you should know how she acted in each turn

-She use fire with ice weakness so fuse a Persona that resist fire and has Ice skill(or skill card if you have one)

-She will follow her Fear with instant kill in the next turn so you have to deal with that with skill(Patra or Me patra)/ item

-put Chie on guard most of the time to prevent fire weakness and maybe against Fear(maybe so she can use item to cure Fear from MC later)

-You don't need to kill the addition enemy(it better if you do but you don't have to) it will runaway eventually if you out last it

-Be careful of what action you about to do and try to predict Your enemy action next turn

-Keep your HP up , Guard if it look dangerous , make sure your MC is staying alive

-If tactic still isn't enough Grind more level and retry

[赤皇帝]

I was surprised by shadow Yukiko too when I fought her on hard while I didn't have a memory of having any trouble with her on original. Just grind a few levels and it's way easier, went from 8 -> 10 with full hp/sp and had little trouble.

[Zovi Mentov]

One thing that helped me a lot with bosses is: REMEMBER TO GUARD and DEBUFF BOSSES. Lowering defense is crazy good in this game, and can make fights a lot easier.
It's that simple really.

Boss charges something -> Guard -> Crew survives mega attack

pewpew lower defence to boss-> rampage -> 100hp hit 3 times in a row. like 10-15% of bosses lifebar gone poof

Boss pewpew fire magic to poor Chie - > Guard -> Chie survives

EZ PZ Chie best girl confirmed

[Mei]

Unlike other RPGs, buffing and debuffing are almost essential in Persona. Learn attack patterns, guard when necessary. Find and abuse enemy weaknesses. Use Persona's with strong resistance, or even nullification against enemies you are fighting.

[Oragepoilu]

They do are essential but not that early. buff are single target early and because the bonus doesn't stay long (3turn), and it's easy to miss a turn (if you get a status effect, if they block, etc), it's not often worth wasting a turn if you can hit instead.
Reminder; buff give around 40% bonus dmg, so you need to hit 3 time to get the value back of a turn.
Debuff on the other hand is more handy early, since you can hit way more often for the duration.