I am happy this has strong DRM.

[Japanese Schoolgirl]

I bought this on principle to support their releases on the PC platform and support a company I absolutely adore - who else is hoping for Arena, Catherine's remastered version and 5? I'm happy this has strong anti-piracy and hope it'll remain uncracked, it's the best way for us to secure PC support... Controversial or not, the rampant piracy on PC hugely dissuades investment into this platform and only a child (who I understand pirating as financially limited) or anarchist would dare to justify this as somehow moral - creators need revenue/profit to earn their living or else they collapse.

[Japanese Schoolgirl]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MancSoulja:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ButtGravy:

Except that DRM do not work, at all.

DRM works very well, it's not meant to protect games for ever, publishers only want to protect the game's during its first days and weeks post launch, that's when they generate most of their revenue.

Yes, and as the crack scene is so huge in Russia to China, we are only supporting these countries destabilising our workers and economies more, no matter the extent of damage. They deserve success as our people and for our nations - why this egocentricity over a patriotic passion for our industries.

[The19thFighter]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από JocularJosh:

Better not use steam then.

Valve has proven to be very reliable with their service.
I trust them.

Also Steam is not really comparable with a DRM.
(Mainly it does not require the use of Steam for authentication of a game).
Yet I still look on GOG first to see if they have the game completely DRM-free.

The people at Valve understand their customers
and found a good way to have protection without the use of an anti-tamper service that impacts performance.

Steam also at least promised they'd have a backup plan in case they would ever go down.
If they were to really do that, I don't know. But the time will probably never come (unlike SecuROM). But I know it's technically possible for them to provide a Steam Client that authenticates all downloaded games. And if not Valve, then someone else will publish a tool.

Vise-versa,
I have no trust in Denuvo, in ATLUS to remove it once Denuvo stops operating,
and in any hacking community to be enough interested to remove it, 15 years after release.

If you're defending DRM, you're not looking at a game as an investment and only as a quick commodity. Try to change your POV to understand why people are upset.
Try looking at it not as a consumable but as a piece of art that is as display in your museum.
You would like to care about that piece of art and do everything to keep it "working"/new.
You can't do that, when the artist installed an apparatus that breaks the art once you move it.

[Cruelty]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ueno Station 54:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από alezcoed:

i agree with good anti piracy measure, but if you supporting denuvo, just kill yourself

See, you are not exactly contributing to a civilised discussion when your regress this to memes and insults on the level to social degenerates at 4Chan.

I mean, when I bring up perfectly good and valid points you selectively ignore them, so you aren't having a civilized discussion either.

[CheeseBoar]

Let us know how you feel after the DRM tells you that you're not allowed to play anymore.

[kiwiii]

i'm gonna be honest here, denuvo is not strong lmaoooo

[MancSoulja]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Future-Proof:

Let us know how you feel after the DRM tells you that you're not allowed to play anymore.

I've missed this guy 🤣

[Japanese Schoolgirl]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WarPigeon:

Thanks for the heads up OP. I almost bought this game, but thanks to your post I saved $25. Definitely don't want to support any publisher that thinks Denuvo is a worthwhile investment for a port of a 12-year-old game.

If something so superficial informs your choice, and it's not respect of a company or love of a franchise, I think that's revealing of a disingenuous motive or a really petty demeanour. DMR is exaggerated as a problem and I have empathy to publishers as a reasonable adult.

[GameAW]

My issue with DRM of any kind is that none of it works. Ever. Its supposed to last the first week or so but in reality, its lucky if it survives the first hour! Its completely pointless because hackers nowadays are just that good at cracking this stuff. For example, P4 Golden is already cracked right now.

[phosTR]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ScottyWired:

okay bootlicker

[WarPigeon]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από MancSoulja:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ButtGravy:

Except that DRM do not work, at all.

DRM works very well, it's not meant to protect games for ever, publishers only want to protect the game's during its first days and weeks post launch, that's when they generate most of their revenue.

Which is fine when publishers eventually remove the DRM, but most Japanese games like this just keep it forever even after it has been cracked.

[Japanese Schoolgirl]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Future-Proof:

Let us know how you feel after the DRM tells you that you're not allowed to play anymore.

Oh no, it'll be the apocalypse, this terrifying what if! Seriously, if that hypothetical fearmongering somehow unfolds, I'm confident there will be a solution to respect consumers- no one wants that a precedent, they want an indefinite license.

[Thaddius]

hey ueno, shut the ♥♥♥♥ up bootlicker

this game has already been pirated on PC anyways, just google PS2 emulators

"libertarian nonsense" yeah keep laughing whilst the boot slowly moves from your mouth to the back of your neck

[hisv]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ueno Station 54:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από WarPigeon:

Thanks for the heads up OP. I almost bought this game, but thanks to your post I saved $25. Definitely don't want to support any publisher that thinks Denuvo is a worthwhile investment for a port of a 12-year-old game.

If something so superficial informs your choice, and it's not respect of a company or love of a franchise, I think that's revealing of a disingenuous motive or a really petty demeanour. DMR is exaggerated as a problem and I have empathy to publishers as a reasonable adult.

See: https://imgur.com/a/wokpxWm

I love Persona, SMT and even Atlus games, I buy them. But I won't buy a game with malware DRM, it does nothing to serve me as a customer and only hinders my experience. If they'd rather lose sales of fans, then so be it. I might buy it on a deep discount when they remove it like they did with Yakuza, but that's it.

[Japanese Schoolgirl]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από GameAW:

My issue with DRM of any kind is that none of it works. Ever. Its supposed to last the first week or so but in reality, its lucky if it survives the first hour! Its completely pointless because hackers nowadays are just that good at cracking this stuff. For example, P4 Golden is already cracked right now.

Go and pirate it as some inane statement which affects only genuine fans who care to support their favour franchises. Watch Atlus recall their support of PC as a platform when figures are affected.

[MancSoulja]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από GameAW:

My issue with DRM of any kind is that none of it works. Ever. Its supposed to last the first week or so but in reality, its lucky if it survives the first hour! Its completely pointless because hackers nowadays are just that good at cracking this stuff. For example, P4 Golden is already cracked right now.

There's been quite a few EA and Ubisoft games that have gone 12+ months uncracked. It's only because Steam's underlying DRM is so weak that Steam games get cracked so quickly.