Am I the only idiot who went into this expecting a serious sequel to R;N instead of a comedy fanservice game?

[Vitameanslife]

I have no one to blame but myself.

[Oliver]

I just finished the first game and jumped right into this thinking it would be serious. After Jo started bugging out at the end of the first chapter I'm starting to suspect that the stakes in this one aren't going to be very high. I'm still excited to continue though.

[twins10]

it does have a serious route at the end if it helps.

but yeah, its mostly the r:n equivelant of c:c's love chu chu or s:g's darling's embrace.

credit where its due though, it is about giving characters time in the spotlight instead of hooking the main character up with everyone, there is even a subaru route and absolutely no ship tease in routes like frau or junna.

[Dolraeth]

Ugh... I kinda was expecting that, since Daru is Daru.

But I hear that it has a bit of mystery goodness somewhere.

Also I feel that R;N's ending was a bit too abrupt, I don't recall if they even tell you what happens with Subaru's plight (both family-wise and that other thing-wise), or what happens to Kaito after abusing special attack, or what happens to the club (but

SPOILER

it was mostly restored).

Hopefully I find out about that here.

[papermonster]

I've just finished 3 routes and can partially agree with you. It has quite a number of fanservice and comedic moments thanks to Daru as the main character. It can be good or bad depending on one's preference. I sometimes was annoyed by Daru's personality while sometimes appreciate his contribution for story progression and his perspective as an outsider towards people and events from the first game.

Despite more laid-back atmosphere than the first game, this game fulfil its purpose to tie loose ends of what happened after that. 2 of the 3 routes I finished gave its respective character a significant development which I really enjoyed. It's also great to see Robot Club work together to achieve something again.

However, it's hard to overlook one particular route that I had a hard time swallowing it. It barely gave something meaningful to that character and the reader, and too weird for my liking.

So far I have mixed feelings about this game, but far from disappointment. I'll update after finishing remaining endings.

Edit: Finished the game. It was an enjoyable ride even though not as much as Elite. The final phase had a serious tone like the first game. Overall this game is a mixture of R;N sequel, R;N fandisc, and (heavy) S;G crossover.

[Skaven]

Eeeh, i feel the same, i was expecting another mainline Science Adventure game, i'm a little sad. I didn't really like the ending of Robotic;Notes Elite, i feel like it was too fast and there were a lot of things that were not really explained (*Elite Spoilers* *Elite Spoilers* *Elite Spoilers* like why Kagome Kagome make the HUGs go haywire or why the accident in the boat give only Aki and Kai their attacks.).
I hope it gets better later.

[Dolraeth]

I think that the Kagoshima ferry (Anemone) incident is explained by Ko or at least handwaved in some way within the game (latter part).

[Skaven]

Yes, it was "explained". But he didn't explain why only Aki & Kai got those attacks.
Also Ko kinda sucks as a villain.
Also sorry for my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ english. I can read but i'am a sucker writing.

[Vitameanslife]

100, I think it was just supposed to be a coincidence. It wasn't that Aki and Kai were special in anyway, they were merely unlucky.

[Sephilar]

Originally posted by 100:

Eeeh, i feel the same, i was expecting another mainline Science Adventure game, i'm a little sad. I didn't really like the ending of Robotic;Notes Elite, i feel like it was too fast and there were a lot of things that were not really explained (*Elite Spoilers* *Elite Spoilers* *Elite Spoilers* like why Kagome Kagome make the HUGs go haywire or why the accident in the boat give only Aki and Kai their attacks.).
I hope it gets better later.

I haven't read DaSH yet, but I think I can still answer your questions.

Kagome Kagome serves the same function as Let me Pass in Chaos;Head, it's like an alarm that the Committee of 300 and anyone that is affiliate with them use to signal that it's time to start the experiment. As to why, it is implied that obviously the one that was using the Kagome Kagome was Kou himself in order to create all that chaos around the world so that he could fulfill his plan. If you're asking about the specifics, don't forget that the SciAdv series is filled with fantasy elements after all. That would be like asking why a bunch of people are able to materialize swords out of nowhere just because they had PSTD, it's just the way it is

As for the other thing.

If you read Chaos,Head or Chaos;Child you'll probably understand. The experiment that Kou was conducting was basically the same that Nozomi conducted in Shibuya 10 years ago, except that because that tecnology was lost because of the events that happened in Chaos;Head, what Kou did was incomplete achievement of what the Project Noah did, resulting with everyone being killed on board except for Kai and Akiho instead of what he originally tried to accomplish. As to why only those two survided, it's not explained but probably because they were the youngest among everyone on boat so that helped they could survive the strong EM radiations but everyone else wasn't that lucky. And as to why they got their attacks, it's exactly the same reason as to why the events of Chaos;Child happen. If you've read it you'll probably understand what I'm talking about, if not, it's better that you read the VN for yourself because otherwise I would be actually spoling you

[YeulEmeralda]

I don't really like the whole fanservice otaku thing. This series shouldn't be about dating or eroge. I mean its fine in moderation but not 20 hours.

[Dolraeth]

I didn't find it that bad, and it's to be expected with Daru starring.

I found it more glaring that the game is used as closure for the Robot Club members, but it's really just aimed to sci-ADV completionists. You really want to know how everyone is doing, but you more or less can pass on the game.

Several people from Steins;Gate make minor cameos, like over the phone and such. More or less everyone is doing okay since this is the Steins Gate worldline, I suppose.

I also can't ignore how they use Daru as the big cheese personality, could have been Takumi but you know, Daru sells more. The basis for this is that Takumi also contacts the Robot Club in the base game (through Twipo). Also it's kinda disappointing how we don't receive any news on Takumi (or even Takuru), but deal with it: Chaos;Head is old and isn't as popular as Steins;Gate.

[Sephilar]

Originally posted by Peibolbear:

I didn't find it that bad, and it's to be expected with Daru starring.

I found it more glaring that the game is used as closure for the Robot Club members, but it's really just aimed to sci-ADV completionists. You really want to know how everyone is doing, but you more or less can pass on the game.

Several people from Steins;Gate make minor cameos, like over the phone and such. More or less everyone is doing okay since this is the Steins Gate worldline, I suppose.

I also can't ignore how they use Daru as the big cheese personality, could have been Takumi but you know, Daru sells more. The basis for this is that Takumi also contacts the Robot Club in the base game (through Twipo). Also it's kinda disappointing how we don't receive any news on Takumi (or even Takuru), but deal with it: Chaos;Head is old and isn't as popular as Steins;Gate.

As much as I love Takuru, I highly doubt we'll know much more about him considering the ending of CCLCC, unless they decide to make another Chaos; sequel and even then, it would probably be using other new characters. If anything though, since Mio is actually relevant to the plot, like not only she's acquaintance with Daru and Kurisu, but she's also among the few that knows about the existence of the Committee of 300 and wants to exact revenge on them, they might decide to include her as another member of the Anti-Committee later on. In any case, again except for Mio, no one from Steins;Gate and Robotics;Notes even knows about Takuru's existence, not even Takumi. As for Takumi, yeah, I'm also pissed they decided to only include Daru just because he's a character from their milked series. Sure, Takumi is not a Gigalomaniac anymore after the events of CHLCC so he probably can't help as a member of the Anti-Committee as much as Daru since he can at least use his hacker skills for information purposes, but if they wanted they could still make him relevant considering he has vast knowledge not only with Gigalomaniac stuff but also being among the first that had to deal with one of the Committee's experiments, so you would expect he's at the very least at this point someone that knows about the enemy in a personal level a lot more than Daru.

So yeah, with that said it sucks they decided to just put some ;Chaos references here and there but they still ended up making a sequel that is a lot more focused with only Steins;Gate just because they don't care about the rest of the series anymore. Even the new SciADV game they are making, Anonymous;Code, it has Kurisu as bait again for the Steins;Gate fans, but we still don't even get half of the same love with the ;Chaos series.

[Dolraeth]

To me Steins;Gate is one of the best games I've played in my life. This has to be the case with a lot of people too, going by the obvious milking it receives (that I acknowledge). But, come on; everything has included references to it since.

OTOH Chaos;Head seems abandoned even though it settled the foundations for the series, and S;G included references to it like Phantasm or Gero Frogs. I think they don't want to tackle Head anymore, they've said on interview something like "we don't make games like Head anymore".

As for recycling Takumi as a character, he's older than the rest of the cast, and should have plenty of information about everything, if only because of his networking on the internet. In the cameos he has, he looks like he's well settled, has a good information network, and is actively looking on Committee shenanigans. I don't know if the plans are to drop sci-ADV in favour of the Anonymous/Occultic series, or if they plan for more games.

BTW Anonymous;Code isn't sci-ADV, is its own series, like the incomplete Occultic;Nine. It's like the next thing and like you say it can even recycle some characters, but it's its own thing.

[Sephilar]

Originally posted by Peibolbear:

To me Steins;Gate is one of the best games I've played in my life. This has to be the case with a lot of people too, going by the obvious milking it receives (that I acknowledge). But, come on; everything has included references to it since.

OTOH Chaos;Head seems abandoned even though it settled the foundations for the series, and S;G included references to it like Phantasm or Gero Frogs. I think they don't want to tackle Head anymore, they've said on interview something like "we don't make games like Head anymore".

As for recycling Takumi as a character, he's older than the rest of the cast, and should have plenty of information about everything, if only because of his networking on the internet. In the cameos he has, he looks like he's well settled, has a good information network, and is actively looking on Committee shenanigans. I don't know if the plans are to drop sci-ADV in favour of the Anonymous/Occultic series, or if they plan for more games.

BTW Anonymous;Code isn't sci-ADV, is its own series, like the incomplete Occultic;Nine. It's like the next thing and like you say it can even recycle some characters, but it's its own thing.

Putting aside whatever people like more or less since it's irrelevant, the reason why Steins;Gate became so popular worlwide wasn't because of the VN, but because of the anime. If Chaos;Head (and also Chaos;Child for that matter) would have had a good adaptation like Steins;Gate, then at the very least it would be a fact that a lot more people would know more about the series than just Steins;Gate. Or do you honestly believe that people in the west were interested or even knew of Steins;Gate for that matter before the anime came out? This happens even with manga versus anime media, a lot of people especially outside of Japan don't even know about the existence of many mangas that are actually popular until the anime comes out, and then that media becomes even more popular once it gets an anime adaptation that is able to please most of the public.

I don't know where you heard that, but even though their intent for milking S;G is clear, it's a fact that they confirmed that S;??? (name still to be decided) will be the same that Chaos;Child was to Chaos,Head, and they confirmed that while Chaos;Child didn't sell as much (and it's not surprising considering they released C;C as a Xbox exclusive game at first...), they are aware that it has always received very good reviews and favourable appraisals among everyone that has read the novel, so no, by no means they are going to stop making references and introducing concepts regarding ;Chaos, they will just keep prioritizing stuff related to Steins;Gate since at the end of the day like you said it does sell more and more easiliy at that.

And yeah, I already explianed why Takumi should be someone that should know plenty of information regarding the Committee of 300. It was just a lazy decision for them to decide to not include him because again, Steins;Gate sell more.

As for Anonymous;Code, they also confirmed that Anonymous;Code will be indeed part of the SciADV series. Occultic;Nine on the other hand it's indeed its own series outside of the SciADV series. Also, if you actually watch the trailer it's not just the fact that they show Kurisu but also the Alpha attractor numbers, which is why even though Chiyomaru didn't actually confirm this detail, a lot of people speculate that Anonymous;Code will be set in the Alpha worldline.

[YeulEmeralda]

But I played Steins Gate years before the anime- which in fact I've never even seen.