Am I stupid or what? Don't get the interrogation system

[J van E]

Bought the game this afternoon but I am totally lost when it comes to the interrogations... After apparently screwing up the first one, with a lady in a shoe store, I am now talking to the suspect in the police station. But

1. I don't really have to a clue how to figure out someone is lying or not

2. when to ask what questions.

And the annoying part is that I have to redo that entire interrogation every freaking time until I, by accident, click on the right question. How can I know what's the right question? Is this a game where you have to remember the sequence of having to press 1, 2 or 3 and repeat it again and again and again and AGAIN until you know what the right sequence is...? This is getting boring and tiresome pretty quickly this way!

Any clues on how to do this...?

[OmniSkribe]

1. Facial expressions (like doubt, sadness etc). Pay attention to them. Expressions play greate role in this game and it's not just "Wow look we have realitic faces"

2 Logic. Even of you don't ask all question or fail in some you have other means to solve the cases. Even a good lier can't go against hard evidences. You can't just click everythere. It's a game where you need to think with your head and not with your trigger finger.

[Perilous]

what's the difference between lying and doubt? if you doubt what they're saying, doesn't it mean they're lying?

[J van E]

Well, never mind anyway... The game keeps on locking up in the middle of a 'level' and I've done the entire bleeding thing from the start three times now. What a terrible waste of money.

[OmniSkribe]

Postat inițial de Shots:

what's the difference between lying and doubt? if you doubt what they're saying, doesn't it mean they're lying?

That's the point, but like in real life they can lie about different thing, some that don't even matter to the case.

If you see that person hides something and you can't make him talk, you have to look again at your evidences, remember who says what etc and just sit and think can this person be the killer if Witness 'A' told me this, Witness 'B' told me this and the Knife belongs to person 'C'. The point and idea of this game to be detective, not just click thorugh all possible dialog options (like in Skyrim/Mass Effect etc) hoping that one of them will lead to "Case Solved" status.

What's the point playing chess if you know all your opponent's next moves and strategy?

[OmniSkribe]

Postat inițial de J van E:

Well, never mind anyway... The game keeps on locking up in the middle of a 'level' and I've done the entire bleeding thing from the start three times now. What a terrible waste of money.

Sad to hear that :(

[J van E]

Sad indeed. But thanks for trying to help anyway! ;)

[Perilous]

Postat inițial de Messy Boy:

Postat inițial de Shots:

what's the difference between lying and doubt? if you doubt what they're saying, doesn't it mean they're lying?

That's the point, but like in real life they can lie about different thing, some that don't even matter to the case.

If you see that person hides something and you can't make him talk, you have to look again at your evidences, remember who says what etc and just sit and think can this person be the killer if Witness 'A' told me this, Witness 'B' told me this and the Knife belongs to person 'C'. The point and idea of this game to be detective, not just click thorugh all possible dialog options (like in Skyrim/Mass Effect etc) hoping that one of them will lead to "Case Solved" status.

What's the point playing chess if you know all your opponent's next moves and strategy?

Actually we do know all their moves because it's an old game with predetermined answers that don't adapt to anything whereas chess adapts.

the 2nd case just before you go become a detective, the jewish guy clearly lies that his hate has nothing to do with it and that he had no motives, so I said lie, the game lets me go on, and I pick that he had loaned money to the fella. Which was wrong, so I try other options under lying started with religious motives, and they're all wrong, and apparently doubt was the correct answer. Didn't provide proof or anything, just hit doubt, they both get aggitated and he confesses..

That seemed odd to me, I'm hoping the rest of the cases make more sense to me

[J van E]

Postat inițial de Shots:

Postat inițial de Messy Boy:

and apparently doubt was the correct answer. Didn't provide proof or anything, just hit doubt, they both get aggitated and he confesses..

I also found that odd. I still have no idea why I had to choose doubt while lying would seem right too and also what he suddenly confessed. Made no sense at all. And in other cases I also wondered why some questions (not even choiced between truth, doubt and lying) suddenly ended an interrogation.

I don't think this is my kind of game. Pity.

[Necramonium™]

the interrogation system is the worst i ahve ever seen in a game, i see the suspect looking away, being nervous, not making eye contact, i use doubt and lie, BOTH WRONG! It just doesnt make sense... And why is Phelps such a ***hole sometimes, you ask something normal and he goes in screaming.

[Circenn]

Postat inițial de Cody the Greatest:

They don't. It's a shame, this could've been a really good game, but the interrogation thing is completely non-sensical. A lot of times it just comes down to luck.

Nothing to do with luck. Either you are good at reading people or you are not. Sure, you could argue these are not people but pixelated forms. However, the models were based on real people.

[Oberon]

Postat inițial de J van E:

Bought the game this afternoon but I am totally lost when it comes to the interrogations... After apparently screwing up the first one, with a lady in a shoe store

How? The game literally tells you which options to pick.

[J van E]

Well, I gave the game another try today. First I switched to DX9 and I found some nVidia Inspector settings on the internet that (finally) gave me good AA in the game (it looked horrible with the default ingame AA options). After doing so I was able to finish the case which crashed on me a few times yesterday. And I also managed to solve the next case: I am getting a hang of choosing between truth, doubt and lying: I probably am not right everytime but I got the case solved anyway. It also seems you shouldn't ask every available question but you have to pick the right ones: probably obvious to most of you but not to me...

Anyway, as it is now, good AA and getting to grips with the system, I kinda like the game now. I certainly don't regard it as a waste of money anymore. It's just something completely different which I had to get used to, I suppose. (I will also see if there is a manual somewhere that can give me some more clues about what to do in certain situations.)

EDIT
Found the manual. Very interesting piece of information: I though you had to choose truth, doubt or lie by only looking at the faces, but apparently you should ONLY choose lie when you can back it up with evidence that's in your notebook! So if you think someone is lying but you have no evidence for it, you have to choose doubt! Seems to me this makes it easier to choose between the options: truth is always very obvious (the person looks straight at you) so when it isn't truth you have to choose between doubt and lie and that choice is made easier by lookng at the available evidence.

I am still a bit unsure when it comes to asking the right questions (sometimes I only have two questions and after asking them I get the message I had no right questions at all...) but since I got my last two cases solved anyway, it's not a big deal.

[Perilous]

Postat inițial de J van E:

ONLY choose lie when you can back it up with evidence that's in your notebook! So if you think someone is lying but you have no evidence for it, you have to choose doubt!

nice to know, i was starting to think that after playing a bit more

Postat inițial de J van E:

truth is always very obvious (the person looks straight at you)

except for the fraud murder set up case when the guy in the bar looks straight at you but your partner tells you he's full of ♥♥♥♥ and that he's lying
i chose that he was telling truth, but nope

[NeverOdd]

You use TRUTH when they have a straight face.
You use LIE when when they have clearly lied or have a suspicious face WTIH EVIDENCE to back it up.
You use DOUBT when they have a suspicious face or something doest add up correctly BUT YOU DONT HAVE EVIDENCE to back it up.

[Tig Ol' Bitties]

Game traps you "in the moment" when questioning suspects. If you already know what direction the case is headed and use the wrong piece of evidence to lean on a suspect (even though that evidence would cause any suspect to confess right there and then), the game 5h1ts itself and gives you an X mark.

It makes no sense in my cases.