Wiping progress - Why the hell would you do this?

[dgresevfan]

You are literally wasting our limited lifespans in this mortal existence. All those hours trying to level up and unlock things. Why are you undoing years of game progress?

Why not rework things in such a way that we KEEP our unlock currency? For the "goddess" that uses the tainted essence this should be very easy.

Refund the essence spent so far, then we can buy things again.

Unlocks take way too long for it to be remotely OK to wipe all progress. Why would you think this was a good idea?

Honestly if I could refund at this point I would be considering it.

[Zymeth]

What do u mean - is the progress getting reset ?

Edit : Ah, I see it in the major update description.
Well - as they said, it needs to be done, so technical stuff. Anyway, maybe they will give a cheat to unlock stuff.

[The Whizzard]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

You are literally wasting our limited lifespans in this mortal existence

hahaha. Are you 12?? Who talks like this unironically?

If you don't like it, you don't need to play the game. If you have bought in and already spent as many hours as you say, then you have certainly gotten your value from the game, no?

It has always been an early access game and the devs have always been up front that a wipe like this might be necessary before release. You bought the game with that understanding, funding the development process.

It's an amazing game. I am also a little put off by the wipe, but for me it gives another EXCUSE to play an amazing game. If you don't feel the same... Do something else WITH YOUR LIMITED LIFESPAN!!!

jfc

[FrontlinerDelta]

Early Access.

I mean. You agreed to this. You knew it was a risk. Shouldn't have played it if you weren't.

[dgresevfan]

Why do something like this when the alternative is possible?

The game is obviously tracking how many points you spent in the "shop" so it must be possible to refund them.

The other "shop" is based on achievements. I can't imagine ALL of those achievements are being changed. So why can't we keep the upgrades tied to those which remain the same?


Are you really OK with losing all progress and needing to do all the same things over again? You want to go through that torturous process of starting with utterly useless heroes and no ballistae again?

The game gets much better after you unlock some of these things. To have all of that taken away is to fail to respect the time of the player.

Why is it so slow to start with? Unlocking takes forever.

Originally posted by FrontlinerDelta:

Early Access.

I mean. You agreed to this. You knew it was a risk. Shouldn't have played it if you weren't.

I did not expect them to do this in a game where there's such a focus on meta-progression and especially not when said meta-progression is so slow.

Definitely not at this stage. Maybe really early on. But you shouldn't be waiting until your players have potentially progressed through multiple levels and are probably ready for the game to have a proper ending, and then, and only then, taking away all their progress and expecting them to do EVERYTHING AGAIN.

The ending isn't even here yet. They might do another reset between this coming update and the final one.

[Lorska]

At least now I finally have a reason to not touch it until it's out of EA.

Also glad I didn't do any essence grind or apocalypse leveling runs seeing as that would have been pointless.

It must be quite the rework if they're willing to nuke everything, even completed runs because inevitably it'll reduce the amount of players testing the new stuff and annoy a portion of the rest of players.

Considering how long runs take it's never really been a game for people with little time to spare though so I guess the repercussions won't be too bad.

Still really curious about these changes and I'd assume that unlocking speed is gonna increase massively. There's quite a few early access resource sinks in the game so those are most definitely getting ironed out.

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Are you really OK with losing all progress and needing to do all the same things over again? You want to go through that torturous process of starting with utterly useless heroes and no ballistae again?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am.

It's normal for early access that something like this happens, often multiple times, and as far as I remember this was warned previously in advance and again now before the update goes live.

I think there is an issue with the speed of tainted essence gathering for new/fresh save players, especially since the talent rework and I am hoping that is one of the things a save reset is likely to produce data and feedback on.

[Lil Grey Wolf]

I mean it's a turn based roguelike and I can get through most my runs, failure or victory in like, an hour to an hour and a half. And I mean, I don't tend to binge on the game myself. Plus I dunno it doesn't feel like it takes that long to unlock stuff if your enjoying the mechanics and such too. PLus Ballistae I...am finding more and more to be lack luster compared to walls and well equipped, extra heroes myself.

[licker34]

Yeah, I usually do pointless things which I hate and then complain when I have to redo them instead of just not doing them in the first place.

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by Lil Grey Wolf:

I mean it's a turn based roguelike and I can get through most my runs, failure or victory in like, an hour to an hour and a half.

Wow! It takes me that long just to do the final night on Glenwald, let alone the other nine.

[Wrong Window]

It seems you are disappointed in the standards you have set for yourself in what EA should be rather than accept the reality of what EA is.

My condolences.

[CanuckBear]

Actually, I'm glad it has to be done, I would have argued against me doing it anyways, voluntarily. I'd like to relive the experience of having no color pants, no need for a second weapon. And I'd feel in sync with all the other players. Now, I'm sitting on a 7 figure amount of souls, disgusting.

[licker34]

Also, what reset?

Start a new map, but campaign is still intact. All unlocks are still unlocked.

No idea what this thread is even about.

[Fringehunter7719]

Originally posted by licker34:

Also, what reset?

Start a new map, but campaign is still intact. All unlocks are still unlocked.

No idea what this thread is even about.

It's about the news in this post in the feed:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1105670/view/3362518992755285765

Important reminder:
The next Major Update will be the Meta Rework (Schaden & Freude), and to do it properly we will need to wipe all the progress made by players in a few months (all runs & Meta progression). Since a lot of things will be changed, this will allow us to make the best possible rework.


We are sorry in advance about this inconvenience, and we will come back to you with more information in due time.

[just.dont.do.it]

Originally posted by dgresevfan:

Honestly if I could refund at this point I would be considering it.

Do not buy early access games if drastic changes are too tough for you to handle.

[Wintersend]

This has, at no point, been a secret. If it was out of nowhere, maybe you'd have a point, as it stands though, you knew what you were getting into when you bought and played the game. If its a dealbreaker you can just wait until the 1.0 launch and treat it as a new game you get then and not touch it until then. May suck, but not very different from how beta's used to work where things never carried over from beta to the main game but people still played the beta.