How to unlock the double shot upgrade for ballistas?

[MeinerEiner]

Hi, i feel like i went to fast through the standard difficulty and missed something to do and the game wont display the prerequisities for Schaden. But if i remember it right it wasnt an omen from Freude. Somebody can help me out?

[Samseng Yik]

Double shot is upgrade from each individual ballista right?
After you build a ballista, there is a upgrade "seasoned operator" allow double shot.

There is an omen to give ballista and catapult better aoe, this is another thing

[MeinerEiner]

@Samseng Yik

Thx for your reply but thats not what i am looking for. I can place the higher ballista like the small ones. Selecting a small one will upgrade it to a higher one. Selecting a higher one should show a button upgrading further into a doubleshot - but however i dont have such button. It was there before the 1.0 reset of my campaign - so i suppose i have to do something to get that feature but cant remember ...

[Nordil(Hun)]

Originally posted by MeinerEiner:

@Samseng Yik

Thx for your reply but thats not what i am looking for. I can place the higher ballista like the small ones. Selecting a small one will upgrade it to a higher one. Selecting a higher one should show a button upgrading further into a doubleshot - but however i dont have such button. It was there before the 1.0 reset of my campaign - so i suppose i have to do something to get that feature but cant remember ...

Probably need to unlock it.

[MeinerEiner]

Exactly that is what i need to know - "Freude" will show you what to do to unlock something but "Schaden" hides it. So do i have to build 500 small ballistas, let them make 100000 damage or so - i would like to know from players who have that unlocked. I tried a few hours building traps, walls ballistas etc. but nothing happens so far ...

[Samseng Yik]

I don't remember this is something hard to unlock.
Think I got it already at LakeBurg (start fro scratch save file)

[Lugithesh]

Hopefully this helps:

It's a dark essence purchase, can't recall exactly what I did to unlock it but I think upgrading ballistas/building 20 ballistas should do the trick. Could also be kill X enemies using ballistas, not sure.

[Handbanana]

I don't remember but you can try actually looking at the locked upgrades. I think it was the build 20 ballistas in one run.

[Daggial]

why do you want it, it just makes playing a hard game on easy mode.

[havardd]

Yeah I'll be honest, I'm in this same boat where I can't figure out how to unlock this. I've cleared all the maps on normal, am looping back through on apocolypse. I've built hundreds of ballistas at this point, upgraded about half of them.

I even did the first map where other than the first two waves and the boss, killed all the enemies on the map only using ballistas/catapults just to see if it was a kill count thing.

Still nothing. Very confused.

[PzyCow]

It is an upgrade from Schaden called "Seasoned Operators".

Don't remember exactly where i got it, but i think early 2nd map (Lakeburg)
Pretty early stuff for me, way before mounted ballistas.

After it is unlocked there is a new upgrade for each individual ballista.

[havardd]

"Don't remember exactly where i got it" - Yes, this is the problem. I looked at several different wiki sites, etc. And while they all tell me the name "Seasoned Operators," none of the ones I found describe how to get it.

Which leaves me wondering if its bugged.

[PzyCow]

I am willing to bet 2 beers and some cake that it is bugged if you cleared all maps and still does not have it.

But then again, you actually have no clue why things unlock.

I presume you have unlocked all the cheap upgrades and omens?

[Telzen]

Originally posted by havardd:

Yeah I'll be honest, I'm in this same boat where I can't figure out how to unlock this. I've cleared all the maps on normal, am looping back through on apocolypse. I've built hundreds of ballistas at this point, upgraded about half of them.

I even did the first map where other than the first two waves and the boss, killed all the enemies on the map only using ballistas/catapults just to see if it was a kill count thing.

Still nothing. Very confused.

That's weird. I reset my progress, and on my first run through Lakeburg the thing popped up for me to buy, so it shouldn't be hard to unlock. Maybe see if you can catch the devs in the discord and see if they can tell you what it takes to get it.

Edit: I don't know if it helps or not but I didn't upgrade any to mounted ballistas.

[havardd]

Yes, I'm at 70% completion or so on both twins.

That said, I think I nailed down the requirement. I pretty much only built MOUNTED ballistas before because I didn't use ballistas at all early campaign, and generally only build them (in mass) right before a boss to avoid exp loss.

However, I repeated my "let the ballistas take the waves" experiment and used only regular ballistas and unlocked it.

Lesson here, it is "REGULAR ballista kill X enemies."
Mounted ballistas no count-a-rino. Schaden so picky!!

[havardd]

Originally posted by Telzen:

Edit: I don't know if it helps or not but I didn't upgrade any to mounted ballistas.

Quite key apparently!