RIP Hand Crossbow

[Collimatrix]

I just looked at the patch notes, and it looks like the days of abusing the everliving crap out of the hand crossbow are gone. Multi-hit with a movement point debuff on a 4X use skill with no mana cost was busted. Just completely busted. I'm not angry, I'm actually just surprised it took them this long.

RIP hand crossbow, you will live on in our dreams.

[Dhaan]

It is still a very strong weapon. Just more in line with the other ones. In my first game after 1.0 release it performed pretty good.

[Unfair Advantages]

I would call it anything but useless or dead. Every ability it has is still really useful, Infact I actually love this a lot more than before, Armor piercing makes it unbelievably good in earlier wave struggles, the -2 Movement on poison is so good to slow down bigger enemies or even the lil fast ones with no chance of them dodging it, And I'll be honest having multishot 5+ on the explosion shot was ridiculous, like it was so worthless most of the time because there would never be enough enemies to make use of it, most die by the third or 4th shot, this one is also cheaper by half mana and AP so just makes it much more versatile and exlusive to where you need it. I love it and handies are still top 3 weapon for sure.

[Nonoche]

Originally posted by callipygian silhouette enjoyer:

I would call it anything but useless or dead. Every ability it has is still really useful, Infact I actually love this a lot more than before, Armor piercing makes it unbelievably good in earlier wave struggles, the -2 Movement on poison is so good to slow down bigger enemies or even the lil fast ones with no chance of them dodging it, And I'll be honest having multishot 5+ on the explosion shot was ridiculous, like it was so worthless most of the time because there would never be enough enemies to make use of it, most die by the third or 4th shot, this one is also cheaper by half mana and AP so just makes it much more versatile and exlusive to where you need it. I love it and handies are still top 3 weapon for sure.

Couldn't agree more, it's still very good. Slightly less broken but still top tier.

[Hard Gay]

Considering a lot of the usual tools I used for armor pierce have been nerfed by having their AP removed, I'd say the hand crossbow actually has a use now and would finally start using it again.

[Samseng Yik]

RIP Hand xbow? I feel it is now in much better place.
Don't need the MS debuff, currently it wreck much tanky enemies.

This topic is pointless and sounds more like a rant from a person who didn't even play the current version.

[Terran]

Hand crossbow is still crazy strong. You can take down the Lakeburg boss with one hero using one, no problem.

[Porkie]

I always thought it was trash.
But now that enemies are slowed by wounds, the game feels a lot more tactical overall.

That said I made sure not to research almost all the weapons so I don't get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ drops.

Crossbow/Hammer/wand is where it's at :>

[Terran]

Originally posted by GLightz:

I always thought it was trash.
But now that enemies are slowed by wounds, the game feels a lot more tactical overall.

That said I made sure not to research almost all the weapons so I don't get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ drops.

Hand Crossbow/Dagger/Druid Staff is where it's at :>

I fixed your error there, no need to thank me!

[ciel712]

Originally posted by Terran:

Hand crossbow is still crazy strong. You can take down the Lakeburg boss with one hero using one, no problem.

Yah my guy did 12k dmg in one turn using hand crossbow. Had like 100% crit and 200% crit power. Multi-hit is *really* strong, and they only had +1 multi-hit.

The armor piercing is also super good.

[Bumc]

I swear they somehow managed to buff hand crossbow again disguising it as a nerf.

[Samseng Yik]

hand xbow is disgustingly OP now.
OMG. Someone still living in a hallucination of nerf.

A person who judge before even trying things on? spit

[Demox]

i got diagonal propagation and propagation bounce, two hand crossbows, that gives you 6 casts of usually 6+ chained attack, that is some damage.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by Terran:

Hand crossbow is still crazy strong. You can take down the Lakeburg boss with one hero using one, no problem.

Did the same thing with a basic longbow+4 criting it for 2500. If you can stack multihit which is a rare stat to find on gear or through level ups already it could be powerful but that is so dependent. Other weapons are better.

In general weapon balance in this game is still pretty bad. There are still clearly better weapons that you will look for each run and determine if you win or lose.

[Melmak]

1h crossbow opie op,. +1 multi not very rare, just this run i got like 6 items and 1 levelup.
Its too good wave clear and single target combined, and cc with -2 move. Its just covers everything whih should not be the case. I think skill one should be nerfed or at least charges cut in half.

[TerraSleet]

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Originally posted by Terran:

Hand crossbow is still crazy strong. You can take down the Lakeburg boss with one hero using one, no problem.

Did the same thing with a basic longbow+4 criting it for 2500. If you can stack multihit which is a rare stat to find on gear or through level ups already it could be powerful but that is so dependent. Other weapons are better.

In general weapon balance in this game is still pretty bad. There are still clearly better weapons that you will look for each run and determine if you win or lose.

If you're critting for 2500 then you invested a ton into a crit isolation build. You can make almost any build wreck house if you invest a ton into it, not just the hand xbow with multi hit anymore.

If you ask me weapons are far better balanced than they were in beta, each build has multiple compatible weapons now and many builds are viable. In the beta most weapons were weak besides the xbow which was absurdly broken with multi hit and propagation stacking, and the shortbow which had spammable AoE that hit way harder than it should.