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As for actual advice, I mean, you say you've read guides and such and I could give you all sorts of advice about unit placement and route selection and upgrade choices... but really, if you're simply desparate for one win, pick Primordium as your champion, pick reforms as your starter card from melting, then find ways to kill and reform primordium over and over for snowballing stat buffs for the win. Reset until you get Aggressive Edible to start with, so you won't have to worry about Superfood passing on burnout if you don't want it to. Heck, reset until you get Antumbra Assault as one of your starter cards so you can immediately kill Primordium yourself.
The last time I played them, beating C25, I went Architect Penumbra, who adds pips to the floor EVERY time he's summoned... and with Votive Key as my starting artifact he also had Endless, allowing him to just keep beating down the boss on every floor if need be.
More so than just setting up a good deck, in order to be successful MT clan combos require wildly different ways of playing, and planning ahead. There is a reason why they are unlocked in the order they are too: The later clans have more complex mechanics you need to focus on. Instead of accumulating direct buffs, you have to set up synergies within your deck in order to be able to take full advantage of, for example, insane ramping buffs or an eternally respawning monster of a unit, while still covering up any weaknesses as the previous poster mentioned.
Even with the same clan combo, you will need to play in a very different way if you focus on a different unit or unit combination. This is one of Monster Train's biggest strengths. Sure, you may not like how a particular clan combo plays or it might not be immediately intuitive to you. Just play what you enjoy, not what you hate. Throwing a fit of rage because you don't like one out of dozens different ways you can play doesn't make much sense.
Maybe you should try playing the game. Penumbra / Dregs has never been good, and that's even more true once the DLC dropped.
@Omniwing:
As others have noted, Primordium is currently an S tier champion, and significantly more powerful than Penumbra, with Reformdium being a nice native boost if you have Primitive Molds. Penumbra is a decent champ without DLC, but drops in value significantly post-DLC. Umbra with DLC probably has the worst banners in the game right now, and most Melting units are not good force multipliers for Primordium, unlike say Awoken's Animus of Will or Sweepers. There's not much in the way of synergy between Melting / Umbra infusions, besides a few like Shadoweater / Paraffin Enforcer, you're typically best off just pursuing a standard Melting line or if Aggressive / Reformdium Primordium, self infused Robot or Shadoweater (if multi-strike was found). Standard Melting lines often care very little for morsels, so making big units that respawn isn't typically how the game is won. The other guy is correct though, Melting / Umbra is short on removal, especially if you're Shadesplitter vs Plinks. Value premium removal cards like Crushing Demise, or pre-DLC, Subsuming Blade.
If you're playing without DLC, work on trying to win with the following lines first:
1) Wickless Baron + multi-strike, dupe it
2) Big Sludge + multi-strike on it's own floor / Architect, dripfall it down to combine with another floor for relentless, or protect it with duped endless stealth tombs
3) Aggressive Primordium / Reformdium + Robot
4) Superfood Primordium + Emberdrain package (Perils on Holdover, Void Binding / Furnace Tap)
With DLC, Draff and Paraffin Enforcer are very powerful infusions, and the Melting burnout lines become significantly stronger. Morsel Made is very good standalone if you find multi-strike, and doesn't really need to stack value onto Primordium to win.
Extra irony because you didn't even read most of what was said here, then you went on to repeat points others had made.
Extra extra irony because this particular run made full use of all the "worst" DLC mechanics that are "never good", using Morsel-Made infusion and an epic Hallowed Halls pull for pure Umbra/Remnant synergy awesomeness, that does not exist according to you lol.
I will leave this with one last protip: if you can't do something but someone else is doing it, that means it can be done. Always.
You really think you're on my level. OK, I'm bored, I'll bite.
Post your run history files and I'll be more than happy to post mine to compare with you. I'll return your words right back to you, just because you're incapable, doesn't mean other people are.
Once again, if you suck with a particular setup but other people don't, that means that the setup is capable of not sucking - you aren't XD
Stats don't lie.
It's very simple, you're bad because you actually think about losing in this game, and winning a single run is an achievement.
You're not on my level.
I told you exactly what the run was, what I used and how it worked - you obviously didn't understand any of it LOL
You are the one who asked first to compare, while avoiding to post a win with the Umbra/Remnant twice now LOL
Once again, you are the one who can't play well with a particular combo, while others can (even OP, who at first couldn't)... guess what it's not the combo's fault if everyone else can make it work LOL
"Stats don't lie" I already told you that I won the run and how I did it, there are no stats to study, it is just a win lol. This makes it super obvious that you just want a game to disagree with any choice in it - and even more clear since you don't seem to be aware that there are multiple paths to victory - even though it was a win, something that you can't do with this setup according to your own words LOL
You say you are bored, well if you used this time to learn the game instead of trying to pick fights in the forums you would have learned something and you would be having fun with it LOL
Yeah, I am very obviously not nearly anywhere near your level, that was clear from the start LOL
So much to pick apart and laugh at in a couple of lines long post lol... and quoted for posterity this time ;D
ggwpblnt
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2711099120
Imagine being proud of winning a single run, rofl. Time to git gud.
Imagine mocking others for doing what you spent so much time whining that you can't do, and not even having the basic self awareness to see how cringe this is. It is actually kind of sad - real life sad not forum sad.
As for the screenshot, surely I don't need to point out that if it was legit you would have posted it the first couple of times that you yourself demanded a comparison - oh right, that was after you wrote an extended rant about how much this combo sucks at everything. So even if it was legit it would just... prove you wrong? lol
You didn't even post the actual run like you wanted others to. That is also sad, not to mention disappointing. Got to praise the amount of effort you put in it though. Even if you somehow posted a legit run now, it is too little too late - the monster train has left the station a several posts ago.
For real now, try and chill some, take it easy, and hopefully get to enjoy what the game has to offer.
You are arguing against a point that has never been asserted, namely "I can't win with Umbra/Remnants" and its variations. The argument is "Umbra/Remnants is a worse combo than most because it's running Umbra."
Imagine if a person wins on average 90% of the time, yet this particular clan combination is at 80%. It would be worse than average, maybe even among the worst. Imagine if this pattern was consistent across many players. (The precise numbers will vary.)
This is why it seems pretty silly to us to speak about any individual victory, it's at such a small scale.
@2022:
I'm glad you bit the bait, it's quite amusing that you think I'm incapable of scoring a single Umbra / Melting victory. Here's one I did, just for you and this topic. Oh, and btw, explaining what you did in a run is for noobs. Just post the run deeplink next time.
monstertrain://runresult/c64bff05-5c22-45e1-ab08-335ce3cf91a3
Typical high roll nonsense Monster Train run, MorselMaster / Enforcer doubled is more than enough to win the run alone,added Shadowsiege infused into Baron x2 for giggles.
Since you're a bit thick, the 43 game winstreak is not a Penumbra / Dregs winstreak, obviously. It's my current 43 game no reload streak. Turns out, I'm actually pretty good at this game and can play any clan combination proficiently. For the sake of making you look silly though, I'll be more than happy to rip off a 10-20 game Penumbra / Dregs streak starting this weekend.
See, the mistake you made is thinking other people are as bad at the game as you are due to your very limited experience. When people here talk about clan combinations being stronger or weaker, we're talking about the potential of being forced into a tough situation that you have to actually work to win the run, not whether the run is winnable at all. OP clan combos have a high probability of essentially winning the run by ring 3/4, playing out the rest of a run is merely a formality. A "bad" clan combination gives a tryhard player the potential to lose a game maybe one every 20, 30 games. Actually converting those potential losses into actual losses can be mitigated by player skill. Rising Dusk completed his 100 game no reload streak, and is well above that counting his modded content.
So, if you had a clue, you'd know that challenging another serious MT player to win a single game with a given combination is a trivial task. All the good players can win at a high % with any combination. Then the only remaining task is to squeeze down the remaining loss percentage until it becomes vanishingly small.
And Giant, point is that it is cringey anyeay. Yeah I know he didn't literally say that he can't win with that combo. Read the actual posts: He made a list of things he thinks are the worst in the game, and I laughed at him because - coincidentally - I literally just had an epic run with the exact things he complained that they suck. He went off the rails after that (pardon the pun lol).
Anyway, he just posted a wall of text from his alternate account out of who knows how many he has. There is not much else to say here, and even OP happily beat the game with the combo that gave them trouble so the thread has run its course. Let's not feed the troll.