Last Divinity boss is rigged against Frostbite builds

[Rayder]

Feel a bit salty from doing last boss blind on cov25 with a frostbite build that owned Seraph, but is completely countered by Purity on divinity which removes frostbite.

I can see no reason why frostbite is arbitrarily useless in this fight... Except if it's to also make the new wurmkin reap mechanic also gimped on this fight, which it is.

[Kaerius]

Frostbite is still good, it's just not broken. Same for reap.
There's even been a player or two who one-shot last divinity with reap.

[Fridge]

That's the point. It's rigged against all builds.

[Kaerius]

Originally posted by Fridge:

That's the point. It's rigged against all builds.

This. Just build better. I had a cov25 4 streak of divinity flying kills on friday.

[Lemming Jesus]

I know what you mean. It's annoying to go for a build only to find that the enemy has an I win button. Like trying to do a spell heavy run and the RNG gives you that seraph that consumes all your spells.

[Celtia]

Originally posted by Lemming Jesus:

I know what you mean. It's annoying to go for a build only to find that the enemy has an I win button. Like trying to do a spell heavy run and the RNG gives you that seraph that consumes all your spells.

But isn't that why you're told what Seraph you fight against on the very starting screen of a run - and can check by hovering over his icon in the upper-right portion of the screen?

The game tells you what bosses (and Seraph version) to expect so that you're not caught having made an entire run building a deck that will be countered.

The Last Divinity, meanwhile, is a static encounter that a player will probably need to face once or twice to learn what does and doesn't work well or easily. (As mentioned above, Frostbite can absolutely work against them, it just will need a lot more work than Seraph.)

[COCAINE BEAR]

I just wrecked the boss easily at cov 25 with solgard frostbite build but I agree I imagine Tethys with the frost build would fare very poorly

Slay the Spire has the same issue with the heart invalidating certain builds tho so idk what can be done about it while keeping it a static encounter

[dacarnix]

The reason for Purity is that The Last Divinity is the only boss in the game who is vulnerable to Frostbite/Reap on all three floors every single turn and can even be hit by them on multiple floors each turn. No other boss has such a glaring weakness to these powerful abilities, so he needs some sort of defense to keep them from being an auto-win.

[Seven Samurott]

I beat The Last Divinity with a Reap Strat so it it works just fine against him

[enricofermi2]

I'm not a fan of how the ability works either. I think it could be changed to not just hard counter certain debuffs. Like if it trasnferred frostbite, to it's own units on a particular floor, rather than just removing it.

[FINAL BOSS]

This seems to be as relevant as it was 3 years ago ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I invested heavy into frostbite, 4 (wow) instances of HoardFrost Effigy (altough with purge) planning to dump them all at the boss. And he is absolutely immune, with no heads up AND he is a static encounter so frostbite build will never be viable to complete the game. As the Reap debuff that I guess is some kind of bleed.

BOOOO!

[ShinryuEXE]

Originally posted by FINAL BOSS:

This seems to be as relevant as it was 3 years ago ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I invested heavy into frostbite, 4 (wow) instances of HoardFrost Effigy (altough with purge) planning to dump them all at the boss. And he is absolutely immune, with no heads up AND he is a static encounter so frostbite build will never be viable to complete the game. As the Reap debuff that I guess is some kind of bleed.

BOOOO!

No, not really any need to necro the thread.

As to your actual points:
Ultimately what you're saying is 'I built an imbalanced deck and got punished for it'. So, yeah, that will happen. Learn what you did wrong and adjust how you build in the future.

As for Frostbite and Reap specifically:
The 'purge every turn' is there to encourage/force players to engage with the waves as they're the real focus of the fight and to make the fight meaningfully different from Seraph/the previous bosses, else there'd be no need to build you deck any differently for the fight. So yes, your strategy of 'ignore everything and try to burst down just the boss with Frostbite' didn't work, but that doesn't mean Frostbite is worthless on the fight.

Some examples of how to make use of Frostbite in the fight:
- Titan Sentry/Sentries can add up to a hefty amount of damage on all enemies of the fight, including the boss. There are so many enemies in each wave, plus Divinity's attack that Titan Sentry's Revenge trigger will activate a ton each turn (even moreso if you're self-pinging it with Torches or the like)
- Coldchannel Solgard: It's like Titan Sentry but on steroids as long as you can keep him protected. Solgard can easily kill every wave and Divinity itself with Frostbite alone since you will be doing increasing levels of damage every turn and again the large number of enemies will be triggering the Revenge a ton of times.
- Wait til Relentless to stack your Frostbite, as the purge only happens on the turns leading up to Relentless.
- Or it's even possible to just burst Divinity down in a turn or two with a handful of Hoarfrost Effigies despite the purge effect.

That aside, Reap is fine vs Divinity, especially if you're playing Decayer Spine Chief, which again can (fairly easily) solo kill Divinity/all the waves with its Reap generation.

[FINAL BOSS]

Interesting. Are you supposed to strive to fight the final boss at each run?

[ShinryuEXE]

As in, can/should every run fight Divinity? You don't have to, though many people do, myself included. It is very reasonable to regularly beat Divinity. You just have to be aware of what the fight is asking of you and build accordingly.

[Nyx (She/Her)]

While frostbite *can* work it really feels cheap that the divinity just gets to "nuh uh!" all of your status stacks, period.

[ShinryuEXE]

Again, the reason for that is so that one specific build doesn't just trivialize the entire fight. And it's not that different from Seraph the Chaste at high shards, as they also get to Purge all stacks every turn instead of just halving them.

Also, again, even with the restrictions Frostbite can still be quite good on Divinity. Like, not just a 'it sorta scrapes by' situation, but actively quite strong (i.e. Coldchannel Solgard).

And all that aside, it's okay/good for different builds to excel in some areas and struggle in others. Like Rage builds having a tougher time vs Chaste, or Emberdrain and small decks having a worse time vs Diligent, etc. etc. etc.