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OG.UA SAPUTRA Oct 30, 2020 @ 11:29pm
Coldchannel is busted
Compared to coldchannel, dire and titanchannel is just ♥♥♥♥ or at the very least much more weaker

Combined with wildwood's healing that squid just kills everybody before they even reached the pyre

+ I found myself to pretty much took all the extra challenge except the "enemy full heal when moving between floor and enemy extra X damage (before boss 1)" because the only tactic when you use coldchannel is to put olgard at floor and spam healing item

The vast vast majority of the card (both stygian and wildwood ) also synergizes extremely well with coldchannel, and if you got the double incant relic its ez win

The only way for you to lose using coldchannel is when your solgard dies at turn wich shouldn't be possible if you spent 3 second thinking your first move

Coldchannel is simply highly consistent, felxible, and got very few minor weakneses compared to other archtypes

And yes im testing this on convenant 20+
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Kaerius Oct 31, 2020 @ 12:05am 
Coldchannel is strong, but Solgard dies easily, so you do need off-faction support to keep him alive.

The main problem is that Direchannel is meh, and Titanchannel is garbage.
Sekzon Oct 31, 2020 @ 3:01am 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
The main problem is that Direchannel is meh, and Titanchannel is garbage.

I concur.
Vertibird Oct 31, 2020 @ 3:19am 
I use armor giving imp, +25 armor spell etc on Solgard. It helps greatly.
OG.UA SAPUTRA Oct 31, 2020 @ 6:56am 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
Coldchannel is strong, but Solgard dies easily, so you do need off-faction support to keep him alive.

The main problem is that Direchannel is meh, and Titanchannel is garbage.
yeah the weakest link on coldchannel run is the first bossfight as it could go wrong very easily

but after that is steamroll time

Kaerius Oct 31, 2020 @ 9:12am 
I think the only way to even somewhat reasonably play Titanchannel is with awoken exile, 0 cost cards and stings, so you can draw tons of spells to play, and play them fast, to wake Solgard up. But then you could've done that with any of his paths and probably been stronger(it might edge out Direchannel, but only just).
Sekzon Oct 31, 2020 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
I think the only way to even somewhat reasonably play Titanchannel is with awoken exile, 0 cost cards and stings, so you can draw tons of spells to play, and play them fast, to wake Solgard up. But then you could've done that with any of his paths and probably been stronger(it might edge out Direchannel, but only just).

also it's one unit that hits once... it's just bad is what it is.
OG.UA SAPUTRA Oct 31, 2020 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by Sekzon:
Originally posted by Kaerius:
I think the only way to even somewhat reasonably play Titanchannel is with awoken exile, 0 cost cards and stings, so you can draw tons of spells to play, and play them fast, to wake Solgard up. But then you could've done that with any of his paths and probably been stronger(it might edge out Direchannel, but only just).

also it's one unit that hits once... it's just bad is what it is.
atleast you could titanchannel trample or multistrike, but with direchannel those backliner especially those 15x2 birds will be a lot of pain
OG.UA SAPUTRA Oct 31, 2020 @ 10:32pm 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
I think the only way to even somewhat reasonably play Titanchannel is with awoken exile, 0 cost cards and stings, so you can draw tons of spells to play, and play them fast, to wake Solgard up. But then you could've done that with any of his paths and probably been stronger(it might edge out Direchannel, but only just).
yeah but at the same time if you pick coldchannel you will have a much better champion with literally no downside unless you plan to keep the winning streak and wanted a no reroll game
luisedgm Nov 21, 2020 @ 9:51am 
Coldchannel is VERY weak at first and VERY strong at the end of the run, it should have more HP initially and only 1 frostburn stack per shard in the end

Also titanchannel is quite bad, it should stack with shards after the phase is gone
Justice Potato Nov 21, 2020 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
The main problem is that Direchannel is meh, and Titanchannel is garbage.
This the real issue.

luisedgm Nov 21, 2020 @ 11:04am 
Idea:
Titanchannel gets Multistrike when it gets double the Shard stack threshold
Direchannel always deals 3 damage per shard, but at level II it does 2 times and then at level III it does 4 times, so it can hit more than one enemy.
Coldchannel:
level I +20 instead of +10 HP
level II: same (+45 HP)
level III: +95 instead of +65 HP, but only one frostbite stack per shard
OG.UA SAPUTRA Nov 22, 2020 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by luisedgm:
Coldchannel is VERY weak at first and VERY strong at the end of the run, it should have more HP initially and only 1 frostburn stack per shard in the end

Also titanchannel is quite bad, it should stack with shards after the phase is gone
its very strong at start if you pair it with green, only a bit shaky at the first bossfight esp against daedalus with shield upgrade
Scathe Nov 25, 2020 @ 4:22am 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2297912714

I felt like sharing my one solgard experience in this thread. I'm still fairly new with 61hours in game. my choices at the start were titanchannel or direchannel. I had already read this thread when I tried it and picked umbra support instead of awoken anyway. those two factors made me think my run was doomed at the start, but I still tried it. titanchannel turned out to be important for the run because it gave solgard the attack to use lifestealing from immortal trade. starting random cards were x2 immortal trade, x2 offering token, and a card that apply frostbite to all enemies. even after I got 5 more offering tokens, it was hard to un-phase solgard turn 1. luckily solgard's second upgrade was coldchannel, so I only had to worry about phased4 the whole run. I made a mis-play on seraph, one turn the last card in my hand was an offering token. I played it, and it auto discarded a crypt builder and that killed the last enemy infront of solgard. that was bad because solgard didn't get to heal from lifesteal and died next wave since that wave was supported by impatient seraph. a siren of the sea with multistrike was pretty beefy by then and I was still able to recover and stack enough lifestealing on her even with her wasting two stacks of lifesteal per attack round. narrow victory on cov 8. coldchannel was very important.
Last edited by Scathe; Nov 25, 2020 @ 4:23am
Scathe Nov 25, 2020 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by luisedgm:
Idea:
Titanchannel gets Multistrike when it gets double the Shard stack threshold
Direchannel always deals 3 damage per shard, but at level II it does 2 times and then at level III it does 4 times, so it can hit more than one enemy.
Coldchannel:
level I +20 instead of +10 HP
level II: same (+45 HP)
level III: +95 instead of +65 HP, but only one frostbite stack per shard


when you say 95hp instead of 65hp, does that mean coldchannel 3 only has 65hp? because if you go cold 2 titan 1 split you get 90 hp and 45 attack. all you guys saying titan is garbage but it actually does pretty much give the option of stats similar to what you're asking for if you do that mix and you only have to sacrifice the first turn.

that said getting to 10 for the second level of titan channel does look like garbage to me on paper. knee jerk reaction time without trying it yet. maybe getting to shard 8 would be a realistic goal to reach for a 0cost spell heavy deck on turn 2... might tempt me to try for more stats by going titan2 cold1 if shard 8 was the cutoff for titan 2.

I shudder to guess how much shard you have to get for titan3.
TheoreticalString Nov 25, 2020 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Kaerius:
Coldchannel is strong, but Solgard dies easily, so you do need off-faction support to keep him alive.

The main problem is that Direchannel is meh, and Titanchannel is garbage.
Odd, I find Titanchannel the most consistent.
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Date Posted: Oct 30, 2020 @ 11:29pm
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