Melting Remnants builds

[PRinciple prickley!?!?!]

Hey y'all, I've been dipping into Melting Remnants recently, but have been having trouble doing covenant difficulties on them. All of their pieces are good, but it seems rare that you get them to the kind of critical mass that breaks runs and allows you to win the game. What synergies have you guys run into so far?

[Yojo0o]

I've been playing them a lot today, just beat covenant 9 with them. Hellhorned as the allied clan has felt the best so far.

I've basically just been going all-in on the Reform mechanic. I hopefully start with the Reform variant of the unique unit, and place him on the top floor, and spend the rest of the fight aggressively cycling my units to stack them up as much as possible before the boss fight. Hellhorned's imps work great in this build, as I get to repeatedly re-trigger their summon abilities. I went almost infinite against Seraph just now, with two Imp Scholars repeatedly recurring to constantly re-play Consume spells. Even with Seraph on spell-eater mode, I was still able to constantly refresh the spells.

I find it pretty easy to build one or more super-units with these guys. The Draff or Bounty Stalkers make for solid foundations for this, though in my most recent run I had an ordinary Dreg do the heavy lifting, with something like 86x15 damage vs Seraph.

Honestly, I haven't found much use for a lot of the tanky monster options for these guys. I'd just as soon throw Dregs under the bus and recur them.

[sesbian lex]

Personally, I mostly look out for reform, i haven't had much luck with harvest synergies, but sacrificing units and stacking reform has been doing good for me. putting endless on a bounty stalker was good because i could just throw it out multiple times in a battle and by the end of the run it had like 120 attack although i never got multistrike on it. i think the real win condition is legion of wax, which just gets ridiculous if you run umbra allied and feed it morsels and get multistrike on it. lady of the reformed and burnout champion also worked pretty well for me

[Black Hammer]

Trying to kill and Reform the same unit over and over can ramp stats up fast. If you're doing a reform focused build, never take upgrades for stats, only cherry-pick stuff like Multiattack.

[PRinciple prickley!?!?!]

Originally posted by hhhhh:

Personally, I mostly look out for reform, i haven't had much luck with harvest synergies, but sacrificing units and stacking reform has been doing good for me. putting endless on a bounty stalker was good because i could just throw it out multiple times in a battle and by the end of the run it had like 120 attack although i never got multistrike on it. i think the real win condition is legion of wax, which just gets ridiculous if you run umbra allied and feed it morsels and get multistrike on it. lady of the reformed and burnout champion also worked pretty well for me

I was eyeballing legion of wax. I haven't pulled it in a run yet, but it definitely seems like a winner. I'll keep doubling down on sack and reform strats, although I really want to make harvest work.

[otheofoolo]

stigian can be a good ally if you luck out and get the dagger, then you keep you deck thin to constantly cast it. course your early game is going to hurt.

[Ackranome]

I find Melting Builds to be the "zerg" mentality... you're just thrusting tons of melting candle sticks into the bosses face that it is overwhelming....

I think their worst partner is probably the healing alliance as you want your candle sticks to die fast then blow up bosses with # of death spells or a hugely reformed candle stick

If you are trying to support other alliances with them - the baron/thief cards are optimal as it allows you to buy your victory... since they steal so much money...

[Prometheus]

Originally posted by Ackranome:

I find Melting Builds to be the "zerg" mentality... you're just thrusting tons of melting candle sticks into the bosses face that it is overwhelming....

I think their worst partner is probably the healing alliance as you want your candle sticks to die fast then blow up bosses with # of death spells or a hugely reformed candle stick

If you are trying to support other alliances with them - the baron/thief cards are optimal as it allows you to buy your victory... since they steal so much money...

The Awoken actually do very well with MR. Get a good source of thorns (or is it spikes? so used to other game's terminology) and the stacks follow units through death and reform. If you use the harvest or burnout champ he takes thorns and heals very effectively. I did a burnout champ with a baron behind. The littles all killed themselves on the thorns while the champ's big hit pwned the big guys.

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Promethian:

Originally posted by Ackranome:

I find Melting Builds to be the "zerg" mentality... you're just thrusting tons of melting candle sticks into the bosses face that it is overwhelming....

I think their worst partner is probably the healing alliance as you want your candle sticks to die fast then blow up bosses with # of death spells or a hugely reformed candle stick

If you are trying to support other alliances with them - the baron/thief cards are optimal as it allows you to buy your victory... since they steal so much money...

The Awoken actually do very well with MR. Get a good source of thorns (or is it spikes? so used to other game's terminology) and the stacks follow units through death and reform. If you use the harvest or burnout champ he takes thorns and heals very effectively. I did a burnout champ with a baron behind. The littles all killed themselves on the thorns while the champ's big hit pwned the big guys.

So, you used the enhancement cards solely but the units basically were worthless?

[Halko]

Originally posted by OBama was hacked!?!?:

Originally posted by hhhhh:

Personally, I mostly look out for reform, i haven't had much luck with harvest synergies, but sacrificing units and stacking reform has been doing good for me. putting endless on a bounty stalker was good because i could just throw it out multiple times in a battle and by the end of the run it had like 120 attack although i never got multistrike on it. i think the real win condition is legion of wax, which just gets ridiculous if you run umbra allied and feed it morsels and get multistrike on it. lady of the reformed and burnout champion also worked pretty well for me

I was eyeballing legion of wax. I haven't pulled it in a run yet, but it definitely seems like a winner. I'll keep doubling down on sack and reform strats, although I really want to make harvest work.

I managed to get a legion of wax early and upgraded it with the +size damage HP and flat damage stones. It literally soloed every single boss in the game from the bottom field. It was nuts. I even had it die early enough bottom and i reformed it and stuck it in the top lane as well. If you give it enough stats it literally breaks the game.

[Done25]

Legion of wax is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Multistrike+the gigantic rune and then just cram him with huge stat buffs in match. He'll spawn an absurd amount of super units...

They really should lose half stats with every split.

[Kitsunin]

I must say that while Remnants have been excellent as primary, it's been difficult using them as an ally. Especially in early game before getting any reforging cards they can be pretty useless for supporting other strategies. I've realized I have to forgo the challenge for the first couple combats which I would normally only ever do for really bad deck matchups.

[Club_Nephalem]

What are you supposed to do about the bird boss that attacks 5x in a row? I've tried several of the strategies listed here, and it seems no matter what I try, he will just chew through my units every time, even super buffed up ones that have been recycled. Im running MR main HH Ally. I'm trying to cycle horned demons because they hit so hard, but it doesn't matter when it each that boss.

Are you supposed to focus on 1 or 2 units or something? Instead of recycling whatever is available? this would make sense, but since the hero reforms randomly, idk how you'd do that. Unless you only place certain units, but then you wont have enough to stop them form overruning your Pyre...

[Ackranome]

Originally posted by Kitsunin:

I must say that while Remnants have been excellent as primary, it's been difficult using them as an ally. Especially in early game before getting any reforging cards they can be pretty useless for supporting other strategies. I've realized I have to forgo the challenge for the first couple combats which I would normally only ever do for really bad deck matchups.

That's why I go with Barons as my support -- I just buy everything in sight....

[Zelarinth]

By far the strongest at least from what I have done is using Umbra as an Ally with them. With the right start right now covenant rank 8 was a breeze. You are able to do every trial bonus for the battles and there are multiple ways to really wrack up the gold for buying the most needed artifacts in the end. My most recent run is below and I have also posted a video on youtube of my final battle. This build is also not even as good as it could be. There is one key artifact missing which is the one that makes eating a morsel worth double. It is also possible to get a 3rd multistrike but I had to settle for the +10 attack in the end.

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edit: my video is uploading but I will add it once its done which may be tomorrow

[Evie]

This is only one strategy, but if you want an absolute boss destroyer, then the spell that gives your units stealth is very, very good. If you can double stack or recur it (or both) and you can build up a huge amount of stealth, it's a really simple win con for pretty much all situations except spikes. Now, if you have to get to the boss, well... then you need to have raw power or some other way to control them before the actual fight, of course.