Retro Database

[tullio25]

Hi, i see on worksop some mods that add different old players but the db is incomplete or adds only some leagues. I would like a official PAID dlc with different start because i don't like to play a old data base on year 2019 and imagine that i'm in 1999... So please Sports Interactive add a diferent start date to a retro database. Especially for the next FM21 because a lot of peaple played CM2000
Here is one example of retro db:
https://footballmanagerstory.com/fm-2020-retro-database-the-1999-2000-beta-retro-database-for-fm20/

[Kyle Brown]

It's not possible due to licensing I'm afraid.

[tullio25]

Thank you for your response.
Well, i thought about that but if is a paid dlc, buy the licence. You don't need to make a patch in winter for the db and also some clubs don't even exists anymore, so no need to pay them the licence... I really love to play old data with the actual features. It would be great business for the company and more enjoyable content for the game if Sports Interactive add this option.

[Kyle Brown]

I’ll forward on your thoughts but unfortunately I think this one might be out of our hands completely!

[Bimdur]

Problem is that there is a lot of different Retro Databases that is community made and I would guess that most players won't pay to get something they can get for free just to get a "official" DLC.

[DanJames9121]

The licensing would cost far to much.

Its the same reason why devs such as Rockstar etc wont remake older GTA games due to the licensing on voice actors, songs etc.

It would be a great addition but virtually impossible financially.

[tullio25]

Originally posted by Bimdur:

Problem is that there is a lot of different Retro Databases that is community made and I would guess that most players won't pay to get something they can get for free just to get a "official" DLC.

Yea but they are incomplete and it is imposible to simulate some events like Madrid galacticos or Abramovich take-over of Chelsea or other team if non-historical is selected (might be a fun option). The rize of some playes after different age like Drogba, Franck Ribéry or Jamie Vardy. The transfer boom after Neymar or triggered by other player if is transfered with that anount of money. Adding new teams like Red Bull or deleting some after financial collapse, or the italian scandal with Juventus relegation. just imagine how many options you can add...

[Bimdur]

Originally posted by tullio25:

Yea but they are incomplete and it is imposible to simulate some events like Madrid galacticos or Abramovich take-over of Chelsea or other team if non-historical is selected (might be a fun option). The rize of some playes after different age like Drogba, Franck Ribéry or Jamie Vardy. The transfer boom after Neymar or triggered by other player if is transfered with that anount of money. Adding new teams like Red Bull or deleting some after financial collapse, or the italian scandal with Juventus relegation. just imagine how many options you can add...

Problem with what you want it that FM is a "what if" scenario game. You start at a set date with a set variables for that date after that everything is "what if" by random numbers.

So to cover all those events you are talking about you would way more then one database. Unless Sports Interactive decides to remake the implementation of databases we are limited to specific start dates even if Sports Interactive them self would make the database.

[shoelessbob]

realistically, the only thing SI could do would be allow you to change the start date in a custom database,that was someone can make something back from 1999 and have it really be that year, not 2019 and pretend it's 20 years earlier.

[Bimdur]

Originally posted by shoelessbob:

realistically, the only thing SI could do would be allow you to change the start date in a custom database,that was someone can make something back from 1999 and have it really be that year, not 2019 and pretend it's 20 years earlier.

I would really like if Sports Interactive would let the dates and RULES be something we could mod. But I think the whole license issue are more about dates then actual players used in the game.

[Kapika96]

Would be cool for sure. Licences are the issue however. The clubs are one thing, the real issue is all of the now retired players.

Certainly not impossible though. Wasn't there a 70s version of FM or CM released for mobile a few years back? They figured it out, so it is doable.