This game is currently unplayable

[rodolfovieira13]

I've been playing FM since the mythical CMs and this game has frustrated me beyond belief. I'm putting it on hold until all this crap is fixed.

-> Tactics have no impact in the game, the players just do whatever they want regardless
-> 25-35 shots per game and 0 goals (or only 1)
-> Strikers are incapable of scoring 1-on-1s
-> Players just plain stop mid run and stand there, losing the ball
-> Opposition has 3-6 shots per game and scores at least 1 goal
-> Inconsequential player instructions
-> Wingers just run with the ball and shoot from wherever they are 90% of times instead of passing it to free companions or crossing

I'm done, my blood is boiling.

[Masked]

Originally posted by parkera:

I've said this for about 3 -4 years now and I know it will never happen etc but at times I wish they'd take 1 year off and work on getting the ME sorted 100%. Each year they look to improve it but each year the improvements break existing changes that worked the previous version. I want to see an actual game of football represented including proper collisions etc.... Where's my Genie

Greed caters to that. FM is always in the top played games, and releases for AAA price...they could easily just release a data update for a year or two. However we hear that they have to pay wages and probably can't do this.

Makes me wonder, what do other studios do when they can only release a game every 3-4 years OR companies that release games and update them for a decade for free?

Football Sim and sports games in general have created this mythos that they don't earn much and they HAVE to release a new product each year. We allowed it to happen.

I am sure SI work very hard on their game and I see a lot of people who work there that have been there for decades AND many were former players of the game. I suspect they love the game. However it boggles my mind why they aren't re-writing the code for the match engine to cater for better animations, graphics and better AI. It boggles my mind that each year they just can't get regens to look right.

I have tested this game on/off for a number of years. I am a pretty piss poor tester - but - I have seen bugs in FM2020 that have been there over a decade. I see match engine quirks and bugs that I have reported over a decade ago. I know for a fact some items in the game are difficult to fix because the way its all coded and embeded deep.

Honestly I see people say "AI will fix this in maybe 2030....".

I heard this stuff in 2004. "Imagine what FM will be like in 2020! Will have amazing realistic 3D graphics, the match engine will be so realistic..."

Nope. Regen faces still look like a game from 1997. Seriously Oblivion faces look better. LOL!

Still same engine bugs and complaints year after year.

This went to a much loved title with the odd complaint (and I was a fan boy + I also trusted SI would iron out bugs by Jan/Feb each year) to a game where things get tweaked, retweaked and problems come and go like musical chairs. Each year an old issue resurfaces cause the way everything is coded, you fix one thing, and you break another - rinse repeat.

Again this is all my opinion.

[MS]

Originally posted by MaximiLLian:

Liverpool 12-0 Aston Villa in the first season!?? what a simulation...FM20

I've seen Liverpool win by 10 several times in 3 seasons. It's utter garbage.

[Eon Blue Apocalypse]

So its not just me? I was hammering teams, came on after the update, now it feels rock hard and unbalanced. The match engine does need sorting out. 30 shots on goal every game and maybe i will score 1. opposition has one shot on
target and scores every time

[Myrosss]

Originally posted by Lataralus:

So its not just me? I was hammering teams, came on after the update, now it feels rock hard and unbalanced. The match engine does need sorting out. 30 shots on goal every game and maybe i will score 1. opposition has one shot on
target and scores every time

Same problem .. Just to hard to win a single match, lets see new update is out !

[fourfourtwo79]

Pep G. must have received the "30 shots but still draw/lose" update after the last season too. ;-)

[samuel]

It the best Match Engine ever. sorry u suck at the game

[gizmoc]

Glad its not just me, first season I win the league with Man Utd, Martial top goal scorer, improved squad replacing some deadwood with quality players and suddenly Martial can't hit a barn door with a banjo..

Now, I can understand if he wasn't getting chances anymore you could argue me changing players could attibute to that, but to literally miss every shot is utterly ridiculous

[Ignorance]

people who complain about not being able to score goals, are doing it wrong, i seen how bad it was before. its being improved all the time, its not as bad as its been. i tried to find a solution, to the problems with the game and now i win a lot, playing with PSG(just one team out of many i played with lately) and after i got a good right winger and had my backs trained with the right traits i won 32 matches in a row, got to the final in Champions league, got trashed by barcelona, but i won some good matches up until then, and it was doable in 1st season with the right tactic and setup. Mbappe scores a lot of 1vs1, even tho he is better at penalty than neymar he just doesnt score on them, so its about finding the quirks and fix them. tactics means A LOT more in this version, than earlier versions of the game i think, sure there are exploit tactics, but if you set down and look at your team you can pretty easy build a decent tactic and then fine tune it as you go, what you can not do i buy all your dream players put them together in a random downloaded tactic and expect to win and do good. so back to what i first said, if you complain about the game as much as the OP in this thread, your doing something wrong.
not saying the game is flawless and not stating the ME is good either, there are some annoying bugs and the ME is throwing some odd decisions sometimes, but its doable.
i also played with wolves a bit and tbh i have never seen Liverpool win with more than 5 goals top, unless you take the match where Leicester had a red card in the beginning. oh and those that dont believe big goal scores are real should look up Leicester vs South Hampton in their recent REAL PL match which ended 9-0. so stop and think about what you can do about it, instead of just assume its the game that are the problem all the time.

[Masked]

Originally posted by samuel:

It the best Match Engine ever. sorry u suck at the game

What is funny is I am doing VERY VERY well in my game, to the point of it being too easy.

Yet I am one of the people (and a former tester for the game) who thinks this match engine is woeful. There are too many wonder killer balls from backs, goalies and mids to strikers who run constantly one on one.

I know you are just a troll (feel sorry for you really) but I wanted to reply anyway so people understand - it's not just people who lose who complain. The game engine is VERY bad at the moment, but not because SI didn't try to improve it. The problem is they made passing and first touch play SO OVERPOWERED because they haven't also raised the level of defending.

Then SI runs the maths, checks all the statistics and has to lower the conversion rates of one on ones to lower things like average goals scored, CCC"s converted etc.

Many of us know the game very very well. It seems you are just a troll or just a basic kid with no knowledge of football or the game.

Simple as that mate.

[pre-eminence]

Originally posted by MaskedHero:

Originally posted by samuel:

It the best Match Engine ever. sorry u suck at the game

What is funny is I am doing VERY VERY well in my game, to the point of it being too easy.

Yet I am one of the people (and a former tester for the game) who thinks this match engine is woeful. There are too many wonder killer balls from backs, goalies and mids to strikers who run constantly one on one.

I know you are just a troll (feel sorry for you really) but I wanted to reply anyway so people understand - it's not just people who lose who complain. The game engine is VERY bad at the moment, but not because SI didn't try to improve it. The problem is they made passing and first touch play SO OVERPOWERED because they haven't also raised the level of defending.

Then SI runs the maths, checks all the statistics and has to lower the conversion rates of one on ones to lower things like average goals scored, CCC"s converted etc.

Many of us know the game very very well. It seems you are just a troll or just a basic kid with no knowledge of football or the game.

Simple as that mate.

I'm with you. Lots of fools who think everyone who says there are issues must lose every game. The issue, as you say, is the fact that there are exploits in the ME and they brake the game.

The more painful trolls IMO are the kind above you, fools who don't realise the stupidity of using PSG as an example of 'you can win if you try' or the annoying fool who posts the same screenshot and near enough same post to everyone in every post on here.

Playing as PSG does not change the issues with the ME, it just allows you to exploit them with two of the fastest attacking players in the game.

[Kung Fury]

Definitely agreeing with the OP post as I've seen every single one of the listed points happens in my matches.
And there is absolutly nothing you can do to prevent that.
Ask for less risky and short passes from your LOF ? No problem next time you'll see them try a 60m pass and loses the ball.
Ask your 17 accel and 17 marking DC to mark the opponent attacker ? No problem you'll see it next time running at 2km/h letting the striker go 1v1 to your goal and score (cause he doesn't need 10 1v1 as he is a 4th league striker with less than 8 in finishing).
Have a 16 finishing striker. Just see him miss 5 1v1 vs a 4th league gk, No problem.
Ask winger to stop shooting and center for your striker ? No problem, just see them drive by 90m on the field and shoot in a impossible angle instead of passing it to the unmarked striker at the penalty point.
The best part being playing vs a top team (City , liverpool) and see 1 player from the opposing team takes the ball in their 30m dribbles 6 of your player like they are cones and score. 3 times. Very realistic.

All of this happen every single match. And there is nothing you can do to prevent that as the specific individual options are absolutly without effects.

I don't mind losing vs an inferior team as it is what happens in real life football. But having the same struggle every matches vs the weak and getting demolished by the top teams that give you the impression that nothing you could have done would have changed a thing... I call that a very bad design or a broken one that need to be fixed.

For information I'm playing with chelsea.

[Ignorance]

Originally posted by Kung Fury:

All of this happen every single match. And there is nothing you can do to prevent that as the specific individual options are absolutly without effects.

For information I'm playing with chelsea.

well i can understand how frustrating it are, because i was one of those it happened to around release, if you doubt, just look at all those complaints i put up, but now what your saying is something you can do anything about, well it just isnt happening for me, sure my wingers put into the side of the net, but mostly they pass to others, backwards to midfielders going forward, or straight over to strike if free, i get a lot of really nice passing that end with nice goals, and all i did was make sure my tactic was up for the task, and also really important, trained my players to have to right traits for such type of play. and ive been trying to tell people, but everyday new complaints about wingers the ME strikers etc, but it is very much doable. so i must say its just not true, ofc the ME is far from flawless, still a lot of bugs, but the game is very much playable.

[Marcaccio]

nothing nothing, after each update the tactics always respond differently, with the same settings between 20.1.3 and 20.2.1 the tactic renders completely differently. it is impossible that after each patch the same identical tactic works in one way with one and all the opposite with another. nice ideas and developers who never respond

[GeirOve]

Originally posted by MaskedHero:

Originally posted by samuel:

It the best Match Engine ever. sorry u suck at the game

What is funny is I am doing VERY VERY well in my game, to the point of it being too easy.

Yet I am one of the people (and a former tester for the game) who thinks this match engine is woeful. There are too many wonder killer balls from backs, goalies and mids to strikers who run constantly one on one.

I know you are just a troll (feel sorry for you really) but I wanted to reply anyway so people understand - it's not just people who lose who complain. The game engine is VERY bad at the moment, but not because SI didn't try to improve it. The problem is they made passing and first touch play SO OVERPOWERED because they haven't also raised the level of defending.

Then SI runs the maths, checks all the statistics and has to lower the conversion rates of one on ones to lower things like average goals scored, CCC"s converted etc.

Many of us know the game very very well. It seems you are just a troll or just a basic kid with no knowledge of football or the game.

Simple as that mate.

Same here, started in the Norwegian 2 tier, two straight promotions and won the double first season in the top flight.

This ME is tedious, repetetive and god awful. Its the worst FM I have ever experienced.

The player instructions seems totale gone, I have short passes and keep possesion in all area, but my players have played long balls over the oppositions CD defenders for 4 seasons :D. I have felt they are being to a point ignored previously but not to this extend

[GeirOve]

Originally posted by Marcaccio:

nothing nothing, after each update the tactics always respond differently, with the same settings between 20.1.3 and 20.2.1 the tactic renders completely differently. it is impossible that after each patch the same identical tactic works in one way with one and all the opposite with another. nice ideas and developers who never respond

This! So ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sad to see the devs ignore all response towards the game. They promote this game as the most well recieved game in the history and tweets, update status on facebook etc but people are making jokes about the ME in their threads, asking for patches and telling them to fix their game.
I have never witness an FM before that is being so badly recieved on reddit, facebook, twitter etc

They game is not well recieved, still they pretend it to be and ignore