Football Manager 2020

Football Manager 2020

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Kernsen Dec 4, 2019 @ 3:18pm
Can't shoot a goal!?
I know it sounds funny, but after 20 hours invest my team keeps hitting the metal (10 times at least) or having offside 1millimeter when shooting a goal (3 times). Sth is just programmed very tough here, probalby especially in the beginning to have coming success.
Around 20 shoots more on the goal than the other team already the third time and still not been able to shoot one tiny little regular goal.
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Doktor_Kongo Dec 4, 2019 @ 5:33pm 
you are not alone. after the latest patch my team is fully unable to score. even in the best positions without any defenders close to interfere they can't score. it's like the opponents goalkeeper has magnetic hands.
Last edited by Doktor_Kongo; Dec 4, 2019 @ 5:35pm
fourfourtwo79 Dec 4, 2019 @ 5:41pm 
Pep says hi.

https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1376045/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2019-2020-Newcastle-United-Manchester-City
https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1375942/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2019-2020-Manchester-City-Tottenham
https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1375969/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2019-2020-Norwich-Manchester-City
https://1xbet.whoscored.com/Matches/1376038/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2019-2020-Manchester-City-Wolverhampton-Wanderers

So does Zizou. And those are actual managers mind.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-cristiano-ronaldo-has-been-real-madrids-major-problem-season-he-can-also-be-their

This can't be universal, as there's plenty scored all ove the FM communities. BUt to be honest, it's always been (too?) easy on FM to get a lot of shots off that see little chance of conversion. The most overlooked are finishes off the set piece, on average a header under huge pressure inside a jam packed box and similar. Set pieces come about by the defending team getting a foot into the move still. Which would happen even more if they aren#t positioinally stretched. Unless truly openings aren't created with some regularity.... even the best chances realistically should be 50/50 affairs most of the time, like a dice roll (1vs1s 30/30 average, btw). They should be realistically missed too... If the game would ape xG models, more players would see it. Until then... Apparently SI had at least fixed some of the notoriously defensive AI some. Against such defensive AI, shot-wise statistically hugely one-dimensional matches would have been the norm, as they are purely focused on spoiling/making it harder to score.

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Doktor_Kongo Dec 4, 2019 @ 5:51pm 
It's completely fine if this happens here and there, but it doesn't! It happens ALL THE TIME.
I have no problem with regulations on chances, but these rules have to work on the AI teams as well and as far I can tell - they absolutely don't!
I had this match a few minutes ago and reloaded it multiple times to see what happens and it has always been the same! AI strikers score about 50% of their chances even from most ridiculous positions and my strikers always aim straight for the goalkeeper. My team never even scored a single goal in 10 matches against the same team.
fourfourtwo79 Dec 4, 2019 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Doktor_Kongo:
It's completely fine if this happens here and there, but it doesn't! It happens ALL THE TIME.
I have no problem with regulations on chances, but these rules have to work on the AI teams as well and as far I can tell - they absolutely don't!
I had this match a few minutes ago and reloaded it multiple times to see what happens and it has always been the same! AI strikers score about 50% of their chances even from most ridiculous positions and my strikers always aim straight for the goalkeeper. My team never even scored a single goal in 10 matches against the same team.

You don't want to hear this, but since it's blatantly obvious that not everybody has this: Tactical issue, 100%. I agree that it shouldn't be mind. However, the game allows too much garbage on the tactics front that you'd never see on a pitch of football. If this is ever to be a realistic sim, that all needs to go. If you want help go to the SI tactics community. From my end the only reliable source. In particular guys such as Rashidi, Cleon and Herne79 know the game inside out -- including its current flaws. If you just want to take a vent, also fine. Won't fix a thing though.
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Doktor_Kongo Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:08pm 
Could be a tactical issue, sure, but I tried multiple different tactics. And nothing has worked so far. I have to play extremely defensive to reduce the chances the AI gets, because they will score nonetheless. So it's up to me if I want them to score five times or almost zero times. And funny thing is, even if my team has 15 chances, they wouldn't score a single goal but the other team will score multiple times because they get more chances when I let my team play in an attacking strategy. And this is pure BS. The situation was alot better before the patch came out.
Last edited by Doktor_Kongo; Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:09pm
fourfourtwo79 Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:17pm 
Changing things at random is just changing things at random. Tactics on both ends of the pitches have always hugely influenced what kind of chances transpire. The AI isn't a match for the actually better players of this. Si don't code to challenge them, as else nobody would play the game anymore. Whilst the AI makes logical decisions depending on the scoreline in a match, and what result it targets. And whilst it also has different preferences as to formatioins. It cannot and doesn't react to what would be specifically going on in a match, on the micro level, as a better player would. Like "spotting" where there's space to exploit, which there always will be with any tactic unless somebody would find a cheat to field 30 outfield players covering every inch of the pitch.
Last edited by fourfourtwo79; Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:21pm
Doktor_Kongo Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:28pm 
Speaking of "random": even at random my team should score ONE single goal in 10 matches with about 150 chances in total. One single goal, even by accident or an own goal. And it doesn't happen. It's not like I was playing against Barcelona with a team from Spain's 5th division, it's Germany's second division with equal teams. And it's not just this one match, but the last six different matchups after the patch came out.

Seriously, I appreciate your words and your time here, but right now the game is just a huge pain in the ass, because no matter what I try, my team won't score.


EDIT: Complaining here seems to work, because suddenly my team won the next match by 2-0 and played very, very well. My striker even scored in a 1 on 1 situation. I don't get it.
Last edited by Doktor_Kongo; Dec 4, 2019 @ 6:48pm
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