Incredibly Frustrating and Infuriating

[MS]

I keep saying I'm enjoying the challenge, but at times I can't help but want to throw the laptop out of the window.

Last 4 games read as follows:

Roma at home in the cup - absolutely bossing the game, usual carry on of having all of the possession and numerous attempts on goal without success. Then half time is approaching and as with previous FM's, the top sides ALWAYS seem to score against me in injury time - they hadn't had an attack worthy of the highlights up until this point, sure enough they score.

Fought my way back and ended up winning on penalties after a 2-2 draw. However, their 3 shots to my 20+ boils my blood, as many others have posted.

Roma away in the league - EXACTLY the same thing happens - completely dominate the first half and it's 0-0 with 45:30 gone, and only one minute of added time. I'm thinking to myself, here comes the half time goal. Sure enough, the highlight screen appears and I have a goal kick - this can only go one way now. Donnarumma plays it out to a centre half, and as expected they make a complete pigs ear of it and gift Roma a goal right on half time. Doesn't happen against SPAL or Lecce, but because it is Roma and they're one of the top teams, the ME/ AI MUST find away to cheat!

Again ended up drawing 2-2 despite absolutely battering them.

Lazio at home in the cup - 1-0 up and bossing it up until 82nd minute when they have their first of 3 attacks. The SECOND I change my wing backs from attacking to support it seems to trigger something. Lost 1-2 with two late, late goals.

Sassuolo away (17th in the table in awful form) - As ever, completely dominant but as ever my centre forwards cannot hit a cows rear with the proverbial banjo. I go 1-0 up and the opposition don't get an attack until late in the first half. Surprisingly they score with it.

Game finishes 1-1 with Sassuolo scoring with one of their 2 shots.

I keep defending the game in other posts but, dear god it is trying my patience man!

Granted I don't want to win every single game 7-0 but, when I am dominant I should be able to get the result the statistics and performance deserves. Juventus beat me 1-0 earlier in the season, and rightly so, they outperformed me and my side hung on - I wasn't upset with this. However, drawing 1-1 with Sassuolo should not have happened based on the stats.

Really enjoying the drastic overnight loss of form too, Brilliant.

[Shaman King]

Why do you think they took then head developer of fm into fifa?

[👹MR GHETTOSMART👹]

It has come down to : after speaking to a famous tactician TFF he cut to the chase what the engine has turned into.
Basically his "destroyer v3" which he claims is the most efficient tactic there is on football manager would only be enough to win the league 70% OF THE TIME with liverpool and even with he does its by a few points..
With major clubs say Man Utd , Arsenal that probability is less than 40%.
Anything "over your media prediction" is great "success" and "overachievement".
Thats literally what this filth has come down to..So in other words if you are expected say 17th and finish 15 you should be jumping up and down excitement like a hoe elmo.

[👹MR GHETTOSMART👹]

As far as beta , it only pretended to "fix" some of these problems in the engine and the dynamics of the engine seem alot different in lower leagues , even say : championship.
At high level football (premier league , la liga etc), its still all about the same scripted filth.

[Shaman King]

The shennanigans shoukd have been put to rest with fm 2012. I mean take that advance ai so she can defend corner cheat and poacher cheat just update db every year. But that is not wanted for money reasons

[simongadd]

Yeah as it stands - the score is Frustration 100 : 0 Fun.

I have played FM and all its previous incarnations from day 1 and I can honestly say that I'm done now.
- Headers have been crap for years now and are still no better in this version; defensive headers lead to goals against and since crossing accuracy is terrible, headed goals are rare.
- Every time you enter the area, the attack ends up like a pinball machine with ridiculous ball physics
- Speaking of ridiculous ball physics, how about the fact that on attack my players are far too wooden to actually manage a reverse pass or hip swerve/dribble, but in defence they can clear or tackle with their back to the ball, like some crazed resident evil mutant; the ball then flies upfield as a perfect pass and a counter
- Players with free kick 20 hit the wall every time, corner takers with corner taking 20 hit the first man every time, players with finishing 20 are adept at hitting posts and crossbars and like to mix it up by hitting the corner flag now and again; players with long shots 20 can't even hit the target consistently.
- Players hardly ever get room to cross and when they finally do they dither and never deliver. Most passes are badly executed, ie behind the onrushing player or just not accurate enough, regardless of passing skill
- The concept of defence splitting passes or quick 1-2's is simply non-existent
- On the flip side, my players score about 15 of Son's wondergoals every season; run the whole length of the pitch and score (which is good, because they can't score from 3 inches out).

Every single year I pay good money for what is at best a marginal improvement - what are the devs doing all year ? and are they not playing the game themselves and able to see these glaring issues ?????
I think this was my last FM.

[Masked]

I feel for you brother.

After my 7th season in FM2020, I have finally uninstalled the game.

There isn't much SI can do to save this years version. I actually enjoyed the game LESS on the beta patch and that says something.

I doubt I will be purchasing the next iteration. I might wait 5 or 6 years (if I am still alive) to get back to it, and I will probably only consider it around March...when all the patches are out of the way.

[Spud]

They forgot to make the gameplay fun

[MS]

They did indeed. Some matches are really enjoyable and realistic, and you really feel like you’re immersed in them and every tactical decision counts.

Then you play Hellas Verona at home, go 2-0 up only for them to get two quick fire goals in the last 10 minutes, from absolutely nothing. Happens all too frequently.

The masses have spoken, this years game, sadly, is not up to scratch. It’s a shame as I loved FM19 and have hoped for an enhanced version.

[Crago82]

Tbh I think they have got worse since 16 and before that it was only slight improvement.
Bought game every year from 09 apart from last year after 18 was so bad I refused to buy 19 hoping the extra year gap would show a change but.....no

[👹MR GHETTOSMART👹]

19 was actually playable. 20 was turned to vomit once again...
I had come to the conclusion that the engine on 20 is about the same as 18 except the 5-2-3 formation was nerfed so there's nothing left.

[Maarten]

This was my first FM since 2012, and I was pretty hyped for 2020. Imagine my surprise when it turned out like this. I haven't touched FM since November, but I can't refund it because I played 20 hours.

All we're hearing from SI is : 'We're investigating', and 'Thanks for reporting this'. When asked when they'll fix their broken game the response is : We don't announce patches due to the nature of programming.

It's like they just stopped caring.