Gotta be honest - glad I only paid $2

[Carpe Noctem]

Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed the campaign and would have easily paid atleast $20-30 to experience it and play again with friends. However, the multiplayer? This has to be one of the worst gears games to date imo, MP wise.

The lack of characters to pick from, the insane prices for skins, horde mode locking characters and classes together(I mean seriously why? Why would they do that?) escape mode feeling really boring and bland.. wow, I am really disappointed.

I haven't kept up to date with where all the characters are in character customization, but the trend to push them after launch is really silly. Are we supposed to wait months just to play as Baird, Cole, Clayton, Lizzie, Oscar, and all the countless other characters? I don't know, just doesn't feel like a proper gears game.

And yes, I know 4 had the awful lootboxes, but at least it had a lot of characters to pick from and the horde mode was really fun. May just go back to that. Really appreciate Microsoft giving us the ultimate game pass deal though, but I feel like it just guaranteed that I won't be buying this game.

[Carpe Noctem]

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Escrito originalmente por densilver:

This I can actually explain as this is a change from Gears 4. I was wondering this myself but apparently this was known and discussed on the reddit months ago.

The majority of the community actually wanted characters and classes tied together because in Gears 4, it is impossible to actually play horde as a team since you don't know what your companions powers actually do.

Especially in PUG play, which is still by FAR the most common way to play MP games, many complained that the Gears. Even with Mics and announcing what their powers were, it was kinda tricky to remember what each person could do especially if you saw two of the same characters.

That's a decent but completely clueless explanation. Other player classes could be easily displayed as symbols.

The real answer is - retention + money. Instead of leveling up and buying skins for a single character now you have to do it for multiple characters to be effective in a team + not to look like a generic toon.

But in the end it just made me ignore escape mode + leave horde matches where other players take my completely useless Kait.

I agree with this. I don't really think it needs an explanation, because locking characters to classes still limits you and forces you to play something you don't want to.

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Escrito originalmente por Noctem:

, horde mode locking characters and classes together(I mean seriously why? Why would they do that?)

This I can actually explain as this is a change from Gears 4. I was wondering this myself but apparently this was known and discussed on the reddit months ago.

The majority of the community actually wanted characters and classes tied together because in Gears 4, it is impossible to actually play horde as a team since you don't know what your companions powers actually do.

Especially in PUG play, which is still by FAR the most common way to play MP games, many complained that the Gears. Even with Mics and announcing what their powers were, it was kinda tricky to remember what each person could do especially if you saw two of the same characters.

Also, how does the argument of you being unable to tell what your character does hold water for the previous system in gears 4? You knew what class everyone is by the icon in the tab menu. You didn't have any special powers or abilities other than the bonuses you obtained with cards that granted you small perks. Even a noob in both games isn't going to know what each character does just by locking that character to one class. All this system does is restrict customization and make horde mode boring and tedious.

[ElviraDemonQueen]

i will love to play gears of war 4 but its not on PC sadly so i just stick with gears of war 5 sadly i just hope oneday they will release all gears of war games in a pack like they are doing with halo since all the games are in apack and can be buyed on steam

[Retro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNUhrnbIiro
this is how plus october were gettin cog soilder

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i will love to play gears of war 4 but its not on PC sadly so i just stick with gears of war 5 sadly i just hope oneday they will release all gears of war games in a pack like they are doing with halo since all the games are in apack and can be buyed on steam

Gears 1 and 4 is on PC though. Just not on Steam

[ElviraDemonQueen]

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Escrito originalmente por Neptune:

i will love to play gears of war 4 but its not on PC sadly so i just stick with gears of war 5 sadly i just hope oneday they will release all gears of war games in a pack like they are doing with halo since all the games are in apack and can be buyed on steam

Gears 1 and 4 is on PC though. Just not on Steam

yeah i heard you have to buy Gears of war 4 with a Xbox CD box and use the code somewhere but i not gona do that but im sure they willl release gears of war games in a pack oneday on steam like they are doing with Halo

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Gears 1 and 4 is on PC though. Just not on Steam

yeah i heard you have to buy Gears of war 4 with a Xbox CD box and use the code somewhere but i not gona do that but im sure they willl release gears of war games in a pack oneday on steam like they are doing with Halo

Not even you just buy it straight from the MS store. Its a xbox anywhere title so you'll own it on xbox as well

[Carpe Noctem]

Escrito originalmente por Lt Somthin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNUhrnbIiro
this is how plus october were gettin cog soilder

I really hope new characters aren't locked to that monthly progression too

[Yuiiski]

Gears of War has always been one of those games that I play for about a week and then never play again, I got this game with the Xbox Game Pass, I have completed the campaign, played some Horde and Versus and I am already done with it. I have no desire to play anymore, and it only cost me £9.99. I have saved myself like £59.99.

That is what I love about the Xbox Game Pass, Origin Access, Uplay+ etc, I can just subscribe for 1 month, play the game, and then cancel the subscription before I get charged again. I'll probably do the same thing with The Outer Worlds and Watch Dogs Legions when they release.

[hualahn]

Paid 40 bucks and just received my key for PC AND xbox one x AND a free copy of Gears 4 - also for PC/xbox one. NOT steam though, but i would never pay 30 bucks more only to get steam achieves some trading cards and NO GOW4 ;)

[BoozeJunky]

Escrito originalmente por Astran:

to be effective in a team + not to look like a generic toon.

I have no idea why this even matters to people so much. To me, seeing somebody all kitted out in bling and doing silly dances just puts up a huge red flag that the person is a complete idiot. Used to be that unlocking unique customizations was an indicator that a player was either really dedicated or highly skilled. Now it's just an indicator of someone's credit score and poor judgement.

♥♥♥♥ man, some of those skins and emotes cost $10 or more. For what it costs to make a personalized character to impress strangers on the internet, I could get a dozen or more entire games on a Steam/GOG sale and have days or weeks of new content to chew through.

[Munchies [NerdsBG]]

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Escrito originalmente por Astran:

to be effective in a team + not to look like a generic toon.

I have no idea why this even matters to people so much. To me, seeing somebody all kitted out in bling and doing silly dances just puts up a huge red flag that the person is a complete idiot. Used to be that unlocking unique customizations was an indicator that a player was either really dedicated or highly skilled. Now it's just an indicator of someone's credit score and poor judgement.

♥♥♥♥ man, some of those skins and emotes cost $10 or more. For what it costs to make a personalized character to impress strangers on the internet, I could get a dozen or more entire games on a Steam/GOG sale and have days or weeks of new content to chew through.

This is completely false. The most expensive emote or skin cost 300 iron the cheapest are 100.

2250 iron costs 18 euro so 1 iron is 0.008 euro. So one cheap skin is 0.8 euro and the expensive ones are 2.4 euro. The flags are 700 iron - so they are 5.6 euro ... there is not a single thing that costs 10$ ....

Stop spreading false information.

[BoozeJunky]

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1,000 Iron costs 9.99 USD. The Islander Lahni skin costs 1,000 Iron. A world flag costs 700 Iron ($7.00). A blood spray costs 400 Iron ($4.00). And that's just from the featured and special offers tabs. I haven't seen a full catalog of purchasable items, so it seems they're ratcheting up the false scarcity by having items only available in a rotation - and sometimes only available through bundles like the "Get Sweaty" pack (5 skins, 1 emote, 1 bloodspray, and 1 execution) for 2,500 Iron ($25).

♥♥♥♥ off with the apologetics for shameless corporate fleecing. None of that stuff is even worth $1.00.

[ElviraDemonQueen]

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Escrito originalmente por Munchies NerdsBG:

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1,000 Iron costs 9.99 USD. The Islander Lahni skin costs 1,000 Iron. A world flag costs 700 Iron ($7.00). A blood spray costs 400 Iron ($4.00). And that's just from the featured and special offers tabs. I haven't seen a full catalog of purchasable items, so it seems they're ratcheting up the false scarcity by having items only available in a rotation - and sometimes only available through bundles like the "Get Sweaty" pack (5 skins, 1 emote, 1 bloodspray, and 1 execution) for 2,500 Iron ($25).

♥♥♥♥ off with the apologetics for shameless corporate fleecing. None of that stuff is even worth $1.00.

atleast you pay for the stuff you want instandlyanyway then buy 80 loot boxes for 100€ and mostly get 60 duplicits of most items and not getting the skin you wanted atleast here you can buy what you like

[BoozeJunky]

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atleast you pay for the stuff you want instandlyanyway then buy 80 loot boxes for 100€ and mostly get 60 duplicits of most items and not getting the skin you wanted atleast here you can buy what you like

Right, I mean even with the price gouging it's way better than the system they had in place for Gears 4. At least the new system isn't pay to win, since from what I've seen there aren't any gameplay affecting bonuses attached to purchasables. You can pay for an EXP boost, but EXP doesn't really seem to do anything except for unlock cosmetics - and even if it does, you still have to grind out the levels and you only get one reward for a level advancement. Most of the stat altering stuff is tied to character progression which is only advanced by playing the different modes - and even better, the bulk of the actual stat boosts are (at least in Horde mode that I play) are bought on a per-game basis by enemy energy drops. So it's somewhat of a balance between whether you want to use that energy currency to build stuff from the fabricator or to buff your character for the next wave.

Cards themselves are only earnable in-game. In Gears 4, you could just buy a ton of card packs and craft higher tier cards from all the duplicates for massive damage and resistance bonuses. Of the two systems - I definitely prefer the way Gears 5 does it - even if it's scummy as hell in it's own right.