How do i win the final battle?

[Deathjester]

The dragons start at 50% hp, the game has been super easy by far, and then suddenly the final battle is so dang difficult i dunno what to do. Anyone know any cheese?

[Grumpy Old Dude]

final battle cinematic starts at 1:27:00

Std Pal/Rgr/CL/Wiz party

https://youtu.be/wHYT12pqhJU

[TwoArmedMan15]

Just want to say, it doesn't help that the AI-controlled dragons can damage party members with their breath attacks. Seriously, developers, if you're not going to give the players control of the dragons, you need to program the dragon AI to not breath attack an area containing party members. Beware the dragons! They can be more a hindrance than help.

Dragon AI issues aside, the fight is quite difficult. Use stealth to creep up at the start, position party members strategically, and initiate the battle with a big AoE damage spell. (I hope you have a wizard or sorcerer...) If you have a save far enough from the battle, you might be able to pre-buff the party.

A friend and I just finished the game full-coop recently, we were both thoroughly put off by the final encounter. We managed to beat it, though. Our unconventional party consisted of a Paladin (Berden pre-gen), Sorcerer (Hector pre-gen), Rogue (player-made), and Warlock (player-made). Some additional, "spoilerish" guidance follows...

DO NOT WASTE TOO MANY RESOURCES IN THE FIRST ENCOUNTER! That's right; there is a second phase, and it's worse than the first. The second phase requires you to survive waves of Shikaths and Abominations until the end of combat round 4.

[Frostfeather]

This shouldn't be terribly difficult if you didn't have issues with the rest of the campaign. But you can always fall back onto some extremely reliable strategies that work for almost any fight in Solasta:

- Pass Without Trace (optional but helpful, use Arachnid cloak if not available otherwise) + ranged attacks from 3 stealthed party members. And 1 tanky party member stationed away from everyone else to direct enemies to them so the others aren't detected. Put the tank in a corner so they're not surrounded and have them Dodge if needed.

- Wall of Fire, Spirit Guardians, Blade Barrier, Wall of Thorns, etc, whatever you've got. Surround the group with the wall spells for massive damage to approaching enemies. As a bonus, surprising enemies with wall spells will do damage to them multiple times before they can act.

- (Twinned) Greater Invisibility, which is pretty much a win button. Even if you can only cast it on one dps character that uses attack rolls, this can still help turn the fight in your favor.

Also, use potions ahead of the fight (minimally Heroism, possibly Speed and/or strength pots). If we knew what you had in your group, we could probably help even more.

[Deathjester]

Originally posted by night4:

This shouldn't be terribly difficult if you didn't have issues with the rest of the campaign. But you can always fall back onto some extremely reliable strategies that work for almost any fight in Solasta:

- Pass Without Trace (optional but helpful, use Arachnid cloak if not available otherwise) + ranged attacks from 3 stealthed party members. And 1 tanky party member stationed away from everyone else to direct enemies to them so the others aren't detected. Put the tank in a corner so they're not surrounded and have them Dodge if needed.

- Wall of Fire, Spirit Guardians, Blade Barrier, Wall of Thorns, etc, whatever you've got. Surround the group with the wall spells for massive damage to approaching enemies. As a bonus, surprising enemies with wall spells will do damage to them multiple times before they can act.

- (Twinned) Greater Invisibility, which is pretty much a win button. Even if you can only cast it on one dps character that uses attack rolls, this can still help turn the fight in your favor.

Also, use potions ahead of the fight (minimally Heroism, possibly Speed and/or strength pots). If we knew what you had in your group, we could probably help even more.

I got cleric, (the one who can throw fireballs) Paladin of Tirmar, Wizard, shock arcanist and rogue with two really good short swords and a really strong longbow with bracers that give her profiency +2 attack on them.

If i could somehow heal and buff the dragons before they go against the enemies.

What element are sorak weak against? Should i start the fight with chain lightning? I'd need to load an earlier save.

[Frostfeather]

Originally posted by Deathjester:

I got cleric, (the one who can throw fireballs) Paladin of Tirmar, Wizard, shock arcanist and rogue with two really good short swords and a really strong longbow with bracers that give her profiency +2 attack on them.

If i could somehow heal and buff the dragons before they go against the enemies.

What element are sorak weak against? Should i start the fight with chain lightning? I'd need to load an earlier save.

First, you should have your Rogue begin the fight stealthed at range (for the Rogue bonus to Stealth you likely have) as that will increase the chance of enemies losing their first turn. There's probably not much advantage to using Chain Lightning until you're more surrounded.

You've got a good amount of area firepower in your group. You could have the Cleric use Spirit Guardians then area damage, and the Wizard Greater Invis the Rogue then even more area damage, as needed. You'll want to pace yourself somewhat though so don't go nuts with the area spells unless you're getting a good number of targets hit with them.

The Soraks don't really have an elemental weakness, just resistance to poison.

[Soteria]

Originally posted by TwoArmedMan15:

Just want to say, it doesn't help that the AI-controlled dragons can damage party members with their breath attacks. Seriously, developers, if you're not going to give the players control of the dragons, you need to program the dragon AI to not breath attack an area containing party members. Beware the dragons! They can be more a hindrance than help.

Why don't you just stealth up the left side, initiate the fight from range, and let the enemies come to you? There's no need to put yourself in front of the dragons in any event.

[nasojjr]

I know I struggled with this fight as well. My annoyance with the fight was that there is no way to arrange your party between phase I and 2 becuase of the cinematic scene between the two phases brings the whole party together to stand clumped in front of the magister. Very annyoing. I ended up placing an insect pague directly in front of my group so there was no way for enemies to melee me without standing in the plague. Except for one square on a side that I then filled with a wall of fire.

Being only level 10 or 11 I believe I suspect contributed to my difficulty but my second attempt succeeded.

[Dallas S]

Just blast the enemies. Last time I did it I killed the enemies so quickly I had to stand next to the portal waiting for new enemies to come through

[oconnomo]

This fight was epic. My warrior was the only one standing and literally had the last 3 enemy attacks miss while at 1 hp to survive the end of the round and win the game. 10/10

[Zaris]

On normal the endfight was quite easy, just some general tips:
- do the 3-4 former battles on the way only with normal attacks, save spell slots and then rest and heal up HP or use pots for the final fight preparation
- use spell slots for greater AOE spells if it's worth it (3-4 targets to hit)
- standard spells like bless + haste on fighters / guardian spirit on cleric
- heal up dragons with cleric / druid for fun
- use summons as distraction (mage, ranger can summon each 4 monsters and maybe others too, they have low hp but can distract enemies and survive 2-3 hits)

In my last playthrough i had quite the "overpowered" group with 2h paladin (can kill high hp targets with smites, cleric (guardian bubble up to 64 dmg for anyone entering / starting in it), wizard (massive aoe spells) and bard (also some nice aoes).

[Frostfeather]

Just did this fight again and I wanted to add that if you kill everything (5 of them?) in the first round of the second phase of the battle, it ends and the game ends. And 1 minute buffs used before the start of the first part should still be up.

So I guess my best advice to op is to save a highest level spell slot for that one round, AoE the weaker ones with your casters, and finish off the moderately tough one with your Paladin/Rogue, blowing Smites. You can enter cautious mode before it starts, so have your Rogue ambush them.

[Goose]

cant wait to do this fight on catacylsm. should be fun.

[机车小王子]

cast greater Invisibility on the dragon and go hide!