Is this party ok?

[Thorba]

Was creating a paladin, warrior, cleric and mage. I am just worried because i have no thief for lockpicking or traps.

[dulany67]

Make sure you have a high dex character (mage if warrior is strength based) and give him the lowlife background and a set of thieves tools.

[Second Batch]

You just need someone proficient in thieve's tools. One background gives it. Lowlife I think.

Lock picking is never a blocker in this game, and all the traps are very, very weak...and there's only a few.

If you MUST have every chest, come back to those areas later once your Wizard gets Knock at level 3.

The only bad line up would be 4 fighters. Any other combo can beat the game easily.

[Second Batch]

I believe no quest requires thieve's tools. It often just means more climbing, jumping, a jump or fly spell, coming back later, or passing up some loot.

[Cartesian Duelist]

Any class can use thieves tools, you just don't get the proficiency bonus unless you have proficiency.

[lejes]

If you have anyone with decent dex (at least 14) with lowlife background and your wizard learns the knock spell you will be fine.

[总是积极思考]

Originally posted by Second Batch:

You just need someone proficient in thieve's tools. One background gives it. Lowlife I think.

Lock picking is never a blocker in this game, and all the traps are very, very weak...and there's only a few.

If you MUST have every chest, come back to those areas later once your Wizard gets Knock at level 3.

The only bad line up would be 4 fighters. Any other combo can beat the game easily.

I am agree lockpicking tool is not a must as you can return back after learn lock to unlock chest and trap never been painful

Basically for me for character creation what you need is :
Some one with very high Int to handle Arcana and History
Some one with very high WIS to handle Insight, Survival, Perception
Some one with very high CHR to handle Intimidation and Persuasion
Some one with very high STR as main damage dealer and main jumper, climber etc

Arcana usefull for crafting weapon and armors also determine spells power.
History used to determine historical event through main story correctly
Insight important to suggest next move and can be use to unlock bestiary entry before fight enemies
Survival used to unlock Bestiary after fight and also to surivive from skill bad effect
Perception used to aware about trap and surroundings situation
Intimidation and Persuation important for diplomation

[jsaving]

Originally posted by Thorba:

Was creating a paladin, warrior, cleric and mage. I am just worried because i have no thief for lockpicking or traps.

If you are worried then why would you go with this party? Just replace the fighter with a dex-based lowlife ranger, or you could even keep the fighter but go dex-based with a lowlife background.

[kirill-busidow]

Drop warrior and get 2nd paladin or 2nd mage.
Go with battle cleric, he can tank a bit (since he can cast with shield).

[Silverquick]

Well that's the party I use,

THe fighter has a Lowlife background so he is proficient in thieves tools.

Its a highly effective party for in your face combat, as they can take a pummeling and all of them have high AC.

Both Fighter and Paladin can act as "Tanks" to shield the Cleric and Mage. Generally the Paladin has Great Weapon fighting style and dishes out the most damage with his Smites.

For the Fighter I go with Champion and Dual Wield in the Official Campaign... for Player Made Modules I go Mountain Fighter for the +2 AC.

Cleric is also sturdy and has high AC, the Mage is usually a Shock Arcanist with Sellsword background so they are ALL heavily armored and Ambushes can't generally take them down.

The party itself can take on some heavily intensive combat with large numbers of opponents. And stand toe to toe with even the strongest monsters.

[Hero_Weasel]

WTF is a "warrior?"

[lejes]

Originally posted by Hero_Weasel:

WTF is a "warrior?"

Warrior is a fighter. Mage is a wizard.

[Silverquick]

Here's the Party I was talking about above in action. It also goes through them and the stats.
This is a Player Made Dungeon though called Secret of the Black Flame.

Goes through combat on the 1st floor
https://youtu.be/WuhBZTzUsi8

Picks up where the 1st video left off on the second floor.
https://youtu.be/0Zih5QoJoU8

[Thorba]

Thx everyone for the answers. I really should have given the fighter (hope weasel is happy now:) the lowlife background instead soldier, but now i dont want to start over again.
Its good to know that you can learn the knock spell early, i will do this at lvl3.
God thx a thief seems not so important here like he is at neverwinter nights 2 (which i was playing before).

[Hero_Weasel]

Originally posted by lejes:

Originally posted by Hero_Weasel:

WTF is a "warrior?"

Warrior is a fighter. Mage is a wizard.

Then why not say fighter? I mean if someone calls a chicken a turkey, I probably can guess what they mean, but its still wrong... In 2nd edition warrior covered all the ugh... warriors, and that included ranger, paladin, fighter.

So to say their party consist of a paladin and a warrior (when they mean fighter) its just ignorant... So just offering up some poop for them.

As for mage, the game only has one arcane class atm, I can give them de poop, when they add sorcerer and still use mage in place of a class name.

[dulany67]

Originally posted by Hero_Weasel:

Originally posted by lejes:

Warrior is a fighter. Mage is a wizard.

Then why not say fighter? I mean if someone calls a chicken a turkey, I probably can guess what they mean, but its still wrong... In 2nd edition warrior covered all the ugh... warriors, and that included ranger, paladin, fighter.

So to say their party consist of a paladin and a warrior (when they mean fighter) its just ignorant... So just offering up some poop for them.

As for mage, the game only has one arcane class atm, I can give them de poop, when they add sorcerer and still use mage in place of a class name.

Being a little anal, huh?