Don't buy this game.

[louisdulac]

I can't believe I supported this early access. The main game is bare bones and a shell of a game. To charge for everything little bit that comes out is low level EA bad.

Want to play Orc? That will be extra.
How about Barbarian or Bard? More money please.
Excited about that Monk coming out? Lets see how much extra that will cost.

It's like buying a home only to find out while you are moving in that the walls and roof weren't included.

[qwert_44643]

I to can not honestly recommend buying this game
My reasons differ from those listed but not by much.

[Wizard of Woz]

I have to agree with giving this game a pass. I am a huge d&d fan and have played almost every d&d based game out there. This one even with the CE mod and all the community content I still found myself bored quickly. Honestly I think most of it is the 5e rules. Don't like them. Also the lack of interesting magic items is very disappointing. Why am I an adventure if there is no cool loot to find? Might as well get a desk job.

[=JpS=Red5]

Originally posted by louisdulac2000:

I can't believe I supported this early access. The main game is bare bones and a shell of a game. To charge for everything little bit that comes out is low level EA bad.

It's like buying a home only to find out while you are moving in that the walls and roof weren't included.

There base game has plenty of content. It is not as polished as a AAA game, but the full price point is only $40 at full price and $16 when on sale. Most AAA games full price is $60. A fair price for what you get, REALLY great when on sale.

And your house analogy is so flawed. It is like buying a house and deciding later that you want to add a deck, patio, and swimming pool as well as repainting some rooms and changing out carpet.

From what I can tell, the devs delivered everything they said they would from the kickstarter. What do you feel they did not deliver on?

[Grumpy Old Dude]

truth is, there are multiple reasons TO buy the game; and there are multiple reasons not to. Individual decision.

I bought the game, twice. I enjoy the game. I have all the DLC to date, though I find LV to be bland and uninteresting. I find paying for character classes I will most likely never play, to be of dubious value at best; a waste, in reality. I find the Devs lack of communication, to be disturbing. Particularly when that same Dev had such outstanding communication, during the E.A. period. Seems like once the title hit full release...they didnt give AF anymore. Only to the extent that it dealt with something more, they could sell us again.

I wont buy anymore from T.A.; of any genre, of any title. Not until/unless they show me a MUCH better commitment TO, the player base. (And no, a half-assed Dungeon Maker with zero integration ability into the game itself, does.not.count.) The D.M. is akin to WotC selling us a tablet of graph paper, and charging a premium for it.

[Dogtown1]

the funny thing about this dlc is that ALL these classes and MORE are already included in the community expansion 2 on the nexus
.... along with a few more
the list of features in that mod are insane, I actually walked away from this game long ago till I saw what was included in that mod
search the nexus for this mod if you want to play this game
its like playing a whole new game

[Grumpy Old Dude]

Indeed DT, and part of my point. I will not pay the Dev to sell me, what I already have for free. The update, will totally bork the CE 2 mod. Hence, I disabled auto update, and will keep playing the current version, using the current CE 2 mod. I am NOT paying, for free content.

[chantellier888]

I enjoyed the game and can recommend this game without reservation. I played for more than 300 hrs, so the price of admission was worthy.

I will also support TA and will keep buying their DLC and new offering - assuming they will be similar game, even if not DnD. I also find the idea that developers must address every single complain of every single poster on the internet quite immature. Finally, simple because modders / content creators are doing a great service to the community by providing new materials, it does not mean that the content should be 'free'. Without TA, there would be no Community Expansion and additional modules. So a bit of gratitude would benefit everybody.

[Grumpy Old Dude]

gratitude? I should be GRATEFUL they want to take my money to give me what I already have? What friggin rock did you crawl out from under?

oh, and 300 hrs? When you get over 600, come talk to me.

[Ommamar]

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Dude:

gratitude? I should be GRATEFUL they want to take my money to give me what I already have? What friggin rock did you crawl out from under?

oh, and 300 hrs? When you get over 600, come talk to me.

You are such a contradiction. You claim over 600 hours in a game I have heard you bad mouth extensively. I am sure the mod has something to do with that, I also am guessing you played a fair amount of user made content produced by the DM you lambaste regularly. Could the DM be better? Of course, they have made improvements it will never be where you want it at the level that developers such as Bethesda have reached. It is still a good effort for a first game released by a small studio.

I can understand your logic of I like the game combine with the mod so I won't upgrade to the new DLC to access the classes developed by TA. Still I hope you with at least recognize that there was effort put forth to include additional content for people who don't wish to use a mod to further the game. Effort that I along with several other will support by purchasing the next DLC.

[THAC0]

Originally posted by Chocolate Pie Kitten:

The base campaign is excellent , you tend to forget that it is a small indy company, you cant have in same time huge content and small price

I am my self pretty happy of this game, you know that developpers need to eat too ?
You dont like the game , right ok it is not for you , but i find this game far more enjoyable than many AAA games

[Grumpy Old Dude]

Originally posted by Ommamar:

Originally posted by Grumpy Old Dude:

gratitude? I should be GRATEFUL they want to take my money to give me what I already have? What friggin rock did you crawl out from under?

oh, and 300 hrs? When you get over 600, come talk to me.

You are such a contradiction. You claim over 600 hours in a game I have heard you bad mouth extensively. I am sure the mod has something to do with that, I also am guessing you played a fair amount of user made content produced by the DM you lambaste regularly. Could the DM be better? Of course, they have made improvements it will never be where you want it at the level that developers such as Bethesda have reached. It is still a good effort for a first game released by a small studio.

I can understand your logic of I like the game combine with the mod so I won't upgrade to the new DLC to access the classes developed by TA. Still I hope you with at least recognize that there was effort put forth to include additional content for people who don't wish to use a mod to further the game. Effort that I along with several other will support by purchasing the next DLC.

and you would be wrong on SO many counts. I have over 400 via STEAM and over 250 via GOG. The ONLY user made content I have played ANY of, was my own, to play test it. I have said MANY times, the game is great. The Dev...sucks ass. Not unlike SH 3. The epitome of sub sims for years and years and years. GREAT game...Ubisoft however...blows chunks. Solasta...GREAT game. T.A.? Blows chunks. And dont forget, I was one of the loudest, earliest promoters OF the game and of the Dev. During EA, Tactical Adventures had OUTSTANDING player communication. Something I touted and promoted on multiple forums. Then came full release, and communication dried up. Just look at their official forums. The only posts by the Devs, is upcoming ♥♥♥♥ we can sell you. No acknowledgement of bugs on the bug forum; none.

[LJ-the-brave]

@Grumpy old dude I usually respect your opinion, but since you challenge others to reach 600 hours in-game then here I come... I stand by Chantellier's comment. And you should too. It's not the "I have content for free, why should I pay". It's to provide the devs income to continue. I know because during early access I played the game for free, using steam family share. I could say the same and play for free until now. I played in the past numerous cracked games during my young poor period. Now that I have a salary I check on sales to buy the games I like. With Solasta I even bought the game to acquaintances (not friends). You know why? Because the devs you say they don't communicate with us ADDED a multiplayer feature to a Solo game. They worked silently to deliver something that was never promised but requested from the community that Loved their interpretation of DnD video game. They silently worked to upgrade the Dungeon Maker, a feature that wasn't promised but again requested from the community. So no, because they don't answer does not mean that the devs abandoned the game as you claim. They love their work and you can see it through their streams. They are disappointed how they could not change the faces early on the game for better quality but they didn't know how much popularity they would gain. Even I don't know how many limitations made them take decisions on the current version with current features but I know this!!! The CEO himself made the Dungeon Maker during his free time. That to me shows love for DnD and love for their product. So in my view they deserve to be known and have income. They delivered something no one done until now, the most excellent adaptation of a game system so far. Let's help them to see their passion and know-how to grow and deliver us even more amazing things.

Ps. I actually considered gifting you the new DLC just to be able to utilize their work and reconsider on your statements and give more appreciation. Instead I decided to promote SirMadness efforts, because through his dungeon maker contests he pushed us to utilize the new features of dungeon maker and made some of us better creator contents. I am adding to his contest's rewards another prospective winner. Everyone that read this, should consider those contests. It is surprising how one should master creativity to provide a small scale adventure. It gives perspective on the work that is done.

[Grumpy Old Dude]

I dont WANT the new DLC. As for supporting the devs, I dont oppose supporting devs, I favor supporting devs WHO SUPPORT the payer base. That means, Devs who talk to the players, who respond to the players. Not devs who try and milk the players a little here, a little there, giving out juuuuuuuuust enough content each time, to make folks think there is more to it than there is. For the past YEAR on the official forums, the only posts from the Devs have been in regards to something they could sell us. Go look at them. ( https://forums.solasta-game.com/ ) Patches that broke the game? No response from T.A. on the forum AT ALL. None Crickets. Each and every time. Bug reports made, and ignored. None acknowledged. They want my money? I bought the gddmn game TWICE. Dont tak to me about "supporting the devs". I have done so. ALL through E.A., I was very vocal about supporting the game, the devs, and did so on multiple gaming forums. However since the game left E.A., T.A. communication with the players has been conspicuously absent. My disdain for them, they brought on themselves I didnt start out with this attitude toward them, they bred it.

As I said in an earlier post....I wont be buying another title from them anyway. I dont give a damn what they write next. They have shown themselves to be like Ubisoft...we have your money, fck off. And like Paradox...oh but before you DO fck off, here's another DLC, give us another $10. NO. They get no more of my money. And I do not want, this next DLC, nor do I want the update. It will bork my CE 2 mod, and I would rather play it.

[🐺Blue Wolf]

Not everyone uses or cares about mods, so trying to claim we already have 'x' because of mods, doesn't fly for most.

[Grumpy Old Dude]

be careful how you use the word...most. Further, I dont CARE if it "flys" for you or doesnt. Charging ME, for what *I* already have for free...doesnt fly for ME. FInally, virtually nobody playing Morrowind today plays without mods. Same for Oblivion, same for Skyrim, same for Silent Hunter 3. MODS, and a properly done dungeon maker; are how you give a title a 20+ year lifespan. TA screwed the pooch here. they had what COULD have been, a genre defining game.