arcane recovery how does it work

[wei270]

can anyone tell me how archane recover works, every time i used it i just recover 1 of my highest level spell, does said a level 2 spell count as 2 spell slot? because the number of slot recover should equal half your level right

[Zzyl_tsw]

I think it was clear enough in game (even if i am not sure how it split)
But yes, you can recover half your level of "spell levels".
So if you are level 6, you can recover 3 "levels" , meaning 1 level 3, or one level 2 + 1 level 1


https://www.5esrd.com/classes/wizard/
Arcane Recovery

You have learned to regain some of your magical energy by studying your spellbook. Once per day when you finish a short rest, you can choose expended spell slots to recover. The spell slots can have a combined level that is equal to or less than half your wizard level (rounded up), and none of the slots can be 6th level or higher.

For example, if you’re a 4th-level wizard, you can recover up to two levels worth of spell slots. You can recover either a 2nd-level spell slot or two 1st-level spell slots.

[reylliam]

But the game takes away your input on this and chooses your highest available spell slot for you by default.

[wei270]

and i am level 6 while it should recover 3 level 3 spell when it takes away your input but instead it only recover 1 which is the weird part.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by wei270:

and i am level 6 while it should recover 3 level 3 spell when it takes away your input but instead it only recover 1 which is the weird part.

It recovers spell slot "levels", not actual slots. If you are level 7, you get 4 (half your level rounded up), which translates to 4 level 1 slots, 1 level 3 and 1 level 1, 1 level 4, etc.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by reylliam:

But the game takes away your input on this and chooses your highest available spell slot for you by default.

This is the big problem.

It basically assumes the player prioritizes quality of the slot over quantity, when a player might not need another Fireball but a 2nd level charge for Knock instead.

I'm not exactly sure why they designed it this way, taking away player agency isn't really a good thing.

[Kasa]

don't forget you can cast any spell in a higher level slot, that's why it gives back those highest slots since you can use them to cast higher level spells or up cast lower level spells

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Kasa:

don't forget you can cast any spell in a higher level slot, that's why it gives back those highest slots since you can use them to cast higher level spells or up cast lower level spells

Except spells that can't be upcasted like Knock.

[Kasa]

not sure about solasta but ALL spells can be upcast, they just don't get power boosts to doing that.

If you can't upcast knock in a higher spell slot that that's a glitch / mistake in the games implantation of 5e rules.

*edit
I just tested it with shield, ya that's wrong and should be reported in the bug section. In 5e rules any and all spells can be cast in a slot of the same level or higher regardless if they get stronger from being up cast.
I went a head and posted it in the bug section.

[Something completely different]

Good one. All spells should be upcast even if upcasting doesn't sort additional effects like with a knock spell.

[zany]

Or.... have a Rogue pick your locks! :)

[Aldain]

Originally posted by zany:

Or.... have a Rogue pick your locks! :)

If the Rogue fails to pick the lock Knock is the only way to open it because you can't retry picking the lock with the same character.

[KainJo]

I expected arcane recovery to be fix in this sorcerer update. According to patch notes, it is not. I want to be able to select wich slot level i want to recover like in the official rules book version. Make it so please? :)

[EdrickV]

At least now you can apparently upcast any spell without using a mod.