Wizard ranged AOE fire blast cantrip?

[ZiffyHead]

I haven't played 5e for 6 or 7 years, but I seem to remember my wizard having a few AOE cantrip options, like a ranged AOE fire blast, which was one of my favorite features of 5e.

I assume that is because we had the books and not just the basic edition stuff?

If the game is successful is there any chance of getting that stuff added in the future or is it not realistic because of licensing etc?

[psychotron666]

The only aoe cantrip I can think of off the top of my head is the acid splash, green flame blade (which is a newly added cantrip to 5e) and thunderclap. There isn't typically aoe cantrips

[Absinth Minded]

As fire cantrips go there is only firebolt which is single person damage. There is also Acid Splash and Thunderclap. Acid Splash can target 2 which isn't really AoE, Thunderclap targets 5 feet from all around you. Are you sure this wasn't a homebrew?

[ZiffyHead]

I remember having a range 20 AOE fire blast (1), so it was 3x3 spaces.

Now I'm going to have to email my buddy and find out what it was, but it was in one of the books he (the DM) had.

My wizard was also able to use his staff to block attacks and was pretty tanky for short periods with that and light armor...

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by ZiffyHead:

I remember having a range 20 AOE fire blast (1), so it was 3x3 spaces.

Now I'm going to have to email my buddy and find out what it was, but it was in one of the books he (the DM) had.

My wizard was also able to use his staff to block attacks and was pretty tanky for short periods with that and light armor...

That isn't a thing in 5e. Either it was homebrew, or you guys misread the spell description (also homebrew).. same with blocking with your staff is also a homebrew rule.

Here's a list of every single DND 5e official spell from every source material, you can organize it by level, etc. Look through yourself.

https://5e.tools/spells.html#abi-dalzim's%20horrid%20wilting_xge

[ZiffyHead]

It was 6-7 years ago, but now that I am thinking about it, I think I found a magic item, that let me add a blast (1) to a single target spell, 3 times a day and I had to get up close and personal and use the thunder blast for my AOE cantrip.

I could be confusing the staff ability with the shield spell (that makes sense), but that means the staff must have had a small bonus to AC or something that you could use (like shield) a limited number of times.

[ZiffyHead]

They used to have a website (probably still do, linked above) that you subscribe to and it had the character builder, so it would have been using the official stuff available at the time.

I should just try to figure out my old account info and go look at my guy.

[Hobocop]

The verbiage 'range 20' and 'blast (1)' sounds like something from 4e.

The fact that you mention a subscription service to access an official online character builder also says 4e to me.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by ZiffyHead:

It was 6-7 years ago, but now that I am thinking about it, I think I found a magic item, that let me add a blast (1) to a single target spell, 3 times a day and I had to get up close and personal and use the thunder blast for my AOE cantrip.

I could be confusing the staff ability with the shield spell (that makes sense), but that means the staff must have had a small bonus to AC or something that you could use (like shield) a limited number of times.

I'm not aware of a staff item like that, but yeah my thought was you mixing it up with the shield spell. That page I linked does also have a section of all the official magical items, but the list is huge.

There are items like the defender sword that has +3 modifier you can convert to ac. There's also a rogue ability to allow you to half the damage of an attack with a reaction. There might be a magical item that does something similar, or even just a dm created magical item.

Also some enemies have an ability that can block an attack (adds ac just like the shield spell as a reaction but it's just an ability that some monsters use). There's many possibilities there for sure.

[ZiffyHead]

Well thanks for all the info guys, it sucks getting old, LOL

I'm sure when my buddy sees my email, he will remember everything (because he doesn't smoke a lot of pot, like I do), but it sounds like I was thinking of meta magic or something like that, probably a staff that lets you add a blast 3 times a day.

[Digihuman]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

The only aoe cantrip I can think of off the top of my head is the acid splash, green flame blade (which is a newly added cantrip to 5e) and thunderclap. There isn't typically aoe cantrips

Well, it's not SRD but I wouldn't call GFB "newly added" given it first printed in the Sword Coast Adventurer's guide, which was one of the first 5e books to release.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Digihuman:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

The only aoe cantrip I can think of off the top of my head is the acid splash, green flame blade (which is a newly added cantrip to 5e) and thunderclap. There isn't typically aoe cantrips

Well, it's not SRD but I wouldn't call GFB "newly added" given it first printed in the Sword Coast Adventurer's guide, which was one of the first 5e books to release.

But it wasn't officially added as source material until Tasha's cauldron, which just came out like in the last year

[Second Batch]

Flame burst (maybe slightly different name) was a 4e at-will for sorcerer I think. It did d6 in a 3x3, but added no ability score bonus. So it was for wiping out minions.

[Digihuman]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Digihuman:

Well, it's not SRD but I wouldn't call GFB "newly added" given it first printed in the Sword Coast Adventurer's guide, which was one of the first 5e books to release.

But it wasn't officially added as source material until Tasha's cauldron, which just came out like in the last year

The SCAG was official source material. It was merely reprinted with an errata in Tasha's.

[Talkryn]

Heh, age gets us all. Original author is confusing 4e and 5e.

Fifth edition has none of those things mentioned. Fourth edition had Burning Spray? which is why I think is referred to.

[ZiffyHead]

Yeah, that's the trouble with being so darn old (and the benefit).

I've played 'em all and they tend to blur together over decades.

I get my MMOs mixed up too on occasion.

I've definitely had some 4e warloks in the past.