Solasta: Crown of the Magister

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Veg 2021 年 6 月 1 日 下午 6:38
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Refunded because of pronoun selection
Keep your politics out of my games or you dont get my money simple as :)
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Scorpion 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 5:50 
Bah... stupid nyark....
bbii 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 5:51 
引用自 Cartesian Duelist
Isn't it funny how disagreement has become hate and bigotry these days?
Isn't funny how having an option in a game that you don't have to use is enough to send people into anger. That they demand it doesn't exist.
When it is hate and bigotry then it is hate and bigotry.

I mean if you didn't agree with with but played the game and let others use the optional function then that is one thing. To demand it not be there and mark it as political is another.
dulany67 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 5:54 
引用自 Melmak
I fully agree world is full of grey but some things are black and white, like man and woman. Its really easy when you think about if yourself, kek.
If you deny that next thing you know is your money and home is also my money and my home.
No. You see, I also believe there are 2 genders and the rest is just sophistry. But the reasonable reaction when it doesn't affect you at all is to ignore the silliness, not fight a culture war. Save the outrage for something that deserves it.
CAPT CABE MAN 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:01 
Who are you? Lol you should be thrilled you have an extra selection in character creation.
Cartesian Duelist 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:01 
引用自 bbii
Isn't funny how having an option in a game that you don't have to use is enough to send people into anger. That they demand it doesn't exist.
When it is hate and bigotry then it is hate and bigotry.

I mean if you didn't agree with with but played the game and let others use the optional function then that is one thing. To demand it not be there and mark it as political is another.

Calling disagreement with your position hate and bigotry because you don't like how it makes you feel is the primary reason there will never be any useful discussion on the topic. You're certainly free to scream right into the face of anyone who disagrees with you, but you'd have to be stupid not to understand how unhelpful that it. So keep up the good work here, Internet culture enforcer.

PS - While I have played the whole game through and have no reason to seek a refund because of this issue, I do still think it was a bad idea on TA's part for a couple reasons.

1- As Silverquick noted, there are real issues with this game that affect its playability. Regardless of how tiny you think the effort was to implement this change (an it goes beyond just the character creation screen, check the travel log when you journey from place to place), it still took time/resources to implement.

2- This is a hot topic right now, you'd have to be a braindead moron to think it isn't. TA took a gamble that this change will draw more people in than it will push away. That's not a gamble I'd have taken, but it's not my game.

3- It was a bit underhanded to not make this change until full release. People have opinions and they're allowed to express them how they like. Locking people in to a game that they may not have bought if this existed in EA is kinda not cool.
CAPT CABE MAN 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:02 
Why do gamers think other gamers care about their politics. I have Seen so many servers ruined by this. Your a bigot so what just click your mouse and keyboard and keep quiet.
Cartesian Duelist 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:04 
引用自 CAPT CABE MAN
Why do gamers think other gamers care about their politics. I have Seen so many servers ruined by this. Your a bigot so what just click your mouse and keyboard and keep quiet.

You do realize that you have this same option, right?
theshadowcult 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:16 
Pronoun selection isnt politics, it's inclusion, it's no different than skin colour choice. If you were forced to be something due to dialog, or they forced an agenda or idealism on your character, that would be politics.
bbii 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:16 
引用自 Cartesian Duelist
引用自 bbii
Isn't funny how having an option in a game that you don't have to use is enough to send people into anger. That they demand it doesn't exist.
When it is hate and bigotry then it is hate and bigotry.

I mean if you didn't agree with with but played the game and let others use the optional function then that is one thing. To demand it not be there and mark it as political is another.

Calling disagreement with your position hate and bigotry because you don't like how it makes you feel is the primary reason there will never be any useful discussion on the topic. You're certainly free to scream right into the face of anyone who disagrees with you, but you'd have to be stupid not to understand how unhelpful that it. So keep up the good work here, Internet culture enforcer.

PS - While I have played the whole game through and have no reason to seek a refund because of this issue, I do still think it was a bad idea on TA's part for a couple reasons.

1- As Silverquick noted, there are real issues with this game that affect its playability. Regardless of how tiny you think the effort was to implement this change (an it goes beyond just the character creation screen, check the travel log when you journey from place to place), it still took time/resources to implement.

2- This is a hot topic right now, you'd have to be a braindead moron to think it isn't. TA took a gamble that this change will draw more people in than it will push away. That's not a gamble I'd have taken, but it's not my game.

3- It was a bit underhanded to not make this change until full release. People have opinions and they're allowed to express them how they like. Locking people in to a game that they may not have bought if this existed in EA is kinda not cool.

Here is why it is hate and bigotry.
IF you choose he or she do you see they?
Why are you not applying the same logic to those screaming in the face of those who disagree with them and their opinion that the gender pronouns should not exist. That there are only two and anyone who disagrees is braindead, stupid, brainwashed, and lots of other terms.

Hope you're directing some attention to them.
Are we allowed to call it hate and bigotry when it is actually hate and bigotry?
dulany67 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:16 
引用自 Cartesian Duelist

2- This is a hot topic right now, you'd have to be a braindead moron to think it isn't. TA took a gamble that this change will draw more people in than it will push away. That's not a gamble I'd have taken, but it's not my game.

Or they simply believe it is the right thing to do. We're not talking about a megacorp here. They're so small, I'm not sure we can assume corporate expediency.
Cartesian Duelist 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:18 
引用自 dulany67
Or they simply believe it is the right thing to do. We're not talking about a megacorp here. They're so small, I'm not sure we can assume corporate expediency.

I wasn't trying to imply otherwise. The point still stands though that this is a gamble, maybe moreso for a small company.
claiminglight 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:25 
I wouldn't go after the devs on this kind of stuff. This is a damned issue, no matter what they did. Give yourself a thought experiment and see if you can find a way to dance around the laser beams of this or a related issue and give me $50 when you fail to find a way to keep yourself from being at the center of some press release or other bs.

And, if you do find a way to do it, hit me up, because that's some magic I need to know about.
Cartesian Duelist 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:27 
引用自 bbii
Here is why it is hate and bigotry.
IF you choose he or she do you see they?
Why are you not applying the same logic to those screaming in the face of those who disagree with them and their opinion that the gender pronouns should not exist. That there are only two and anyone who disagrees is braindead, stupid, brainwashed, and lots of other terms.

Hope you're directing some attention to them.
Are we allowed to call it hate and bigotry when it is actually hate and bigotry?

Why don't you take a deep breath and calm down for a minute. Regardless of If you choose he or she in the character selection you do see they in the travel log that scrolls down the left when you travel from place to place. So the answer to your first question is yes.

Second, I am applying that same logic to those screaming about how gender pronouns should not exist. As it stands, the OP made a simple statement to the game developer that he would not be buying their game and said why. Then a bunch of people piled on calling him a hateful bigot. Then a bunch of other people inserted themselves here and there and started their own name calling. And what you have is the devolution of conversation that happens when two groups of people start from the point of anyone disagreeing with them being evil.

If you think I said there should be only two pronouns, please quote the post where you think I said that. I'll make your search quick, I never said that. What I said is that putting this into the game was a bad idea.

If you see any cases of actual hate and bigotry, sure you should call them out. However, the war over pronoun use has nothing to do with hate or bigotry.
The Former 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:32 
引用自 Demirincar
Sigh, this is why I stopped buying games. Not getting a single cent from me, I'll be getting the Fitgirl version. #GetWokeGoBroke :winter2019coolyul:

Imagine saying, "This bank stopped giving loans to people of <given political persuasion>, so I'm gonna rob 'em instead. #GetWokeGoBroke" Bragging about committing theft because a company doesn't seem to align with your political views doesn't do a whole lot for those views.
Cutlass Jack 2021 年 6 月 2 日 上午 6:41 
Oh no! A roleplaying game gave me too many optional choices!
Those monsters!
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