Solasta: Crown of the Magister

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Can you dispell / counter Dark Veil?
There's a certain boss who protects itself from its elemental weakness by casting the massively annoying Dark Veil.
The spell Daylight doesn't seem to cancel its effects. How then can I get rid of it?
Originally posted by EdrickV:
Move out of it's area of effect.

Dark Veils is apparently done as an innate ability rather then a spell, so can't be countered the way normal spells can. Daylight and similar things can't counter it, but will still be effective in areas outside the dark veil area of effect where the light reaches. (So don't try casting Daylight on top of Dark Veil, cast somewhere else so that when moving out of the Dark Veil area you'll be in the Daylight area of effect. Planer grid targeting can be useful there. I used Channel Divinity: Indomitable Light and centered it on empty air so it covered the side of the room the enemy was on. When they used Dark Veil, and I had two characters in melee range, I moved them back. The enemy followed them out into the light, and the Dark Veil became irrelevant for the rest of the fight.)
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Ommamar Aug 7, 2021 @ 9:18am 
Although the icon still appears on the portrait if you move out of its area of effect you won't be effected by it. A strategy I find that works on most mobs that use dark veil is to spread the party members out. There are certain times with party members using certain skills that the box is actually more effective but if you are spread out the enemies won't generally use the ability at all.
76561198007484948 Aug 7, 2021 @ 10:57am 
'Dispel Magic' doesn't seem to work against a specific person or object, as it is against an area rather than an individual
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EdrickV Aug 7, 2021 @ 4:45pm 
Move out of it's area of effect.

Dark Veils is apparently done as an innate ability rather then a spell, so can't be countered the way normal spells can. Daylight and similar things can't counter it, but will still be effective in areas outside the dark veil area of effect where the light reaches. (So don't try casting Daylight on top of Dark Veil, cast somewhere else so that when moving out of the Dark Veil area you'll be in the Daylight area of effect. Planer grid targeting can be useful there. I used Channel Divinity: Indomitable Light and centered it on empty air so it covered the side of the room the enemy was on. When they used Dark Veil, and I had two characters in melee range, I moved them back. The enemy followed them out into the light, and the Dark Veil became irrelevant for the rest of the fight.)
Saint Scylla Aug 8, 2021 @ 1:28am 
Thanks for your advices, I eventually managed to win this fight :)

As recommended by Edrick, I disengaged whenever the enemy would cast Dark Veil and moved to an area with Daylight to impose disadvantages on my opponents when they followed.
Algol Aug 8, 2021 @ 5:43pm 
Vampire bosses can recast Dark Veil though.
vitrogon78 Aug 12, 2021 @ 4:48pm 
Dark veil is just a cloud spell, sadly the only one in game that enemies use. It can be dispelled with 'wind wall' spell, though there are much easier ways to deal with it. Kill adds, spread out your party and move out of veil. Bosses don't stay in their veil to heal, sadly, they'll follow you into the light. And keep your tank and summons between boss and your ranged.
ApathicAlpaca Aug 9, 2022 @ 3:37am 
Originally posted by vitrogon78:
Dark veil is just a cloud spell, sadly the only one in game that enemies use. It can be dispelled with 'wind wall' spell, though there are much easier ways to deal with it. Kill adds, spread out your party and move out of veil. Bosses don't stay in their veil to heal, sadly, they'll follow you into the light. And keep your tank and summons between boss and your ranged.

Wind wall was the key to winning for me, thanks for the tip. Counterspell should work on Darkness tbh but yeah...
If you can win the dialogue and then surround her with 3 heroes (4th triggering the fight) she is absolutely manageable at lvl5. However she kinda likes to stay in Darkness and cast from afar (Slow or leeching her ghouls) so just moving everyone out is not a guarantee that she will follow immediately. Meaning she can do 3 moves per round, heal herself like crazy etc.

So Wind wall is definitely cool here.
Valerius Nov 6, 2022 @ 7:28am 
Not being able to bannish dark veil with daylight is just incomprehendible. ~
Aepervius May 29, 2023 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by Valerius:
Not being able to bannish dark veil with daylight is just incomprehendible. ~

Yes that makes no sense. Not only it dispel and overwrite daylight, but also you cannot counter it, you cannot overwrite it with another daylight. There is a reason there is so such ability few of those in 5e balance...

So rather than good boss mechanic, you punish player with an non-counter-able not dispel-able innate. I had forgotten the infuriating aspect of this game. Pretending lightning count, but then when the player is ready for it, the dev cheat and at a LOW cost : that dark veil is apparently only 1 or 2 legendary action.

Now I remember why I prefer the workshop story rather than the main.
Last edited by Aepervius; May 29, 2023 @ 7:11am
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