Dex Fighter

[Loar]

Ok so I am able to get a dex fighters AC up in DnD but I can not get up it past 17 in this game. That is really not enough to use as a fighter. Might as well use a melee ranger. Also, the finesse weapons are extremely limited. Has anyone acquired any new finesse weapons and or increased a dex fighters AC over 17? Without a shield.

[DiceWrangler]

With +1 Half-Plate, DEX 14, +1 Shield, and a +1 Ring of Protection my High Elf Spellblade (Duelist; so no AC bonus) has an AC of 24(!) I think it should be AC 22 (not 24) but there appear to be calculation errors with magical armor and shields granting +1 AC too much (each).

Also, the Crown appears to give +1 to ALL Saving Throws; it does not affect AC.

[Sima Marlin]

Originally posted by Something completely different:

Originally posted by Mork:

Barkskin from a Greenmage: 16 AC + 5 DEX mod = 21 AC

It shouldn't work that way, Barkskin only gives you 16 AC if your total AC is less then 16 ac.

Seems they house ruled it. In normal dnd, as you say, it does not work like this, it sets your ac 16, not base ac, so evene if you got +5 dex your ac is still 16.

This house ruling is broken as BLEEP, doing multiplayer with my friend who uses druid and barbarian, the Barbarian has con 20 and dex 20, no armor +2 bracers of armor and + 1 cloack of protection, his ac is 29.

He also has belt that gives him 25 str, not to mention when he rages he gets extra hp and halved damage so...


Does 29 ac 25 str barbarian halving damage taken with barkskin sound balanced ? :D

[psychotron666420]

Originally posted by Sima Marlin:

Originally posted by Something completely different:

It shouldn't work that way, Barkskin only gives you 16 AC if your total AC is less then 16 ac.

Seems they house ruled it. In normal dnd, as you say, it does not work like this, it sets your ac 16, not base ac, so evene if you got +5 dex your ac is still 16.

This house ruling is broken as BLEEP, doing multiplayer with my friend who uses druid and barbarian, the Barbarian has con 20 and dex 20, no armor +2 bracers of armor and + 1 cloack of protection, his ac is 29.

He also has belt that gives him 25 str, not to mention when he rages he gets extra hp and halved damage so...


Does 29 ac 25 str barbarian halving damage taken with barkskin sound balanced ? :D

Yeah barkskin is broken in this. It's only supposed to give you a 16 Ac or do nothing if your Ac goes above 16. I too made a barbarian with 29 AC and was broken af.

[Sima Marlin]

Originally posted by psychotron666420:

Originally posted by Sima Marlin:

Seems they house ruled it. In normal dnd, as you say, it does not work like this, it sets your ac 16, not base ac, so evene if you got +5 dex your ac is still 16.

This house ruling is broken as BLEEP, doing multiplayer with my friend who uses druid and barbarian, the Barbarian has con 20 and dex 20, no armor +2 bracers of armor and + 1 cloack of protection, his ac is 29.

He also has belt that gives him 25 str, not to mention when he rages he gets extra hp and halved damage so...


Does 29 ac 25 str barbarian halving damage taken with barkskin sound balanced ? :D

Yeah barkskin is broken in this. It's only supposed to give you a 16 Ac or do nothing if your Ac goes above 16. I too made a barbarian with 29 AC and was broken af.

I think they let it stack as there was no monks and barbarians in game but forgot to change it once they added the dlc =)

[LJ-the-brave]

Besides barkskin, there's a feat for dual wielders that boost 2AC

[BigRockWall]

Originally posted by LJ-the-brave:

Besides barkskin, there's a feat for dual wielders that boost 2AC

Swift blade ranger gets the 2 AC from dual wielding at level 3. The feat that anyone can get gives you a reaction for 3 AC against a single attack while dual wielding.

Fighter is the worst version of fighter in solasta. Use ranger pally or barb instead. All 3 make good dex builds.

Imagine OP has figured that out considering the year old necro thread.

[psychotron666420]

Originally posted by Sima Marlin:

Originally posted by psychotron666420:

Yeah barkskin is broken in this. It's only supposed to give you a 16 Ac or do nothing if your Ac goes above 16. I too made a barbarian with 29 AC and was broken af.

I think they let it stack as there was no monks and barbarians in game but forgot to change it once they added the dlc =)

They've overlooked a few things like this. For example the gold Dragon at the end of the game, I killed with fireballs that I was shooting into the crowd because gold dragons are supposed to be immune to fire, but they simply forgot or didn't implement that.

[guard65]

Originally posted by Hamburger_Pun:

Without magic items or a shield, I think 17 is as good as it gets for a DEX based character. 5 DEX modifier plus studded leather's 12 AC.

You add Empress Grab Chain is 13 Base, +2 Magic, + Full Dex Medium Armor. Which should give you 20. Plus the recipe is available for purchase so easy to get and make.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by guard65:

Originally posted by Hamburger_Pun:

Without magic items or a shield, I think 17 is as good as it gets for a DEX based character. 5 DEX modifier plus studded leather's 12 AC.

You add Empress Grab Chain is 13 Base, +2 Magic, + Full Dex Medium Armor. Which should give you 20. Plus the recipe is available for purchase so easy to get and make.

Empress garb isn't medium armor, it is clothing for some reason which lets you also use a couple of spells like mage armor.

[guard65]

It is a chain shirt armor but they removed its armor restrictions. It does not let you cast any spells or have charges of any type, at least in solata. Just has an armor value and is a torso slot placement. I have not tried it with bracers of defense yet but I doubt it will stack but who knows.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by guard65:

It is a chain shirt armor but they removed its armor restrictions. It does not let you cast any spells or have charges of any type, at least in solata. Just has an armor value and is a torso slot placement. I have not tried it with bracers of defense yet but I doubt it will stack but who knows.

Nah, the empress garb isn't armor without requirements, it genuinely is clothing. That's why it works with the bracers of defence and a few other things that only work when not wearing armor (ie barbarian con-armor). It doesn't work with mage armor any more though I remember it doing so when I last played, possibly I am misremembering. Though I am using the community patch at the moment so maybe the community patch fixed that specifically.

Because it works with bracers, and so is functionally 17AC+Dex, it's better than enchanted fullplate for high dex characters.


I just wish it wasn't so ugly.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2843932760

Here is a pic of a bunch of AC bonuses on a barb wearing the empress garb if you want to have a look. It is on the community expansion mod, so if anyone wants to point out anything that doesn't work stock please do, but as far as I know all of this worked stock last time I played (though last time I played, barbarian didn't exist...)

Could actually get more than this, for example I am missing +1 AC from the protection sword that got deleted out of my inventory when I respecced :D.

This guy with that sword, an extra ring of protection which I forgot to add, and the path of stone AC will get up to 37 AC. And there's probably even better +AC items, I just can't be bothered digging through the item menu.

[psychotron666420]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by guard65:

It is a chain shirt armor but they removed its armor restrictions. It does not let you cast any spells or have charges of any type, at least in solata. Just has an armor value and is a torso slot placement. I have not tried it with bracers of defense yet but I doubt it will stack but who knows.

Nah, the empress garb isn't armor without requirements, it genuinely is clothing. That's why it works with the bracers of defence and a few other things that only work when not wearing armor (ie barbarian con-armor). It doesn't work with mage armor any more though I remember it doing so when I last played, possibly I am misremembering. Though I am using the community patch at the moment so maybe the community patch fixed that specifically.

Because it works with bracers, and so is functionally 17AC+Dex, it's better than enchanted fullplate for high dex characters.


I just wish it wasn't so ugly.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2843932760

Here is a pic of a bunch of AC bonuses on a barb wearing the empress garb if you want to have a look. It is on the community expansion mod, so if anyone wants to point out anything that doesn't work stock please do, but as far as I know all of this worked stock last time I played (though last time I played, barbarian didn't exist...)

Could actually get more than this, for example I am missing +1 AC from the protection sword that got deleted out of my inventory when I respecced :D.

This guy with that sword, an extra ring of protection which I forgot to add, and the path of stone AC will get up to 37 AC. And there's probably even better +AC items, I just can't be bothered digging through the item menu.

Community expansion has an option to change the look of empress garb to any piece of clothing you want. I usually pick sorcerer clothes

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by psychotron666420:

Community expansion has an option to change the look of empress garb to any piece of clothing you want. I usually pick sorcerer clothes

I actually noticed this while figuring out how to respec a character to show the garb off, though thanks for letting me know if I hadn't.

I guess that means I am not alone in finding it fugly.