Dual Wielding Effectiveness

[Boss Tripp]

So, my favorite way to fight is dual wielding, is it as effective as 2 handed in this game or is it just like in 5e?

[Shadow]

That's a good question. It always feels to me like dual wielding in 5e doesn't scale well (i.e. you can only ever do one offhand attack per round) as you increase in levels, and becomes almost useless for classes that are geared toward using bonus actions to boost their combat effectiveness (rogues, hybrid classes like paladin or eldritch knight).

[Boss Tripp]

Originally posted by Shadow:

That's a good question. It always feels to me like dual wielding in 5e doesn't scale well (i.e. you can only ever do one offhand attack per round) as you increase in levels, and becomes almost useless for classes that are geared toward using bonus actions to boost their combat effectiveness (rogues, hybrid classes like paladin or eldritch knight).

yea, in 5e 2 handed is way better when you start getting more attacks,

[Carog the Fat]

dual weilding on the other hand gives rogues 2 chance to get sneak attack each round whihc is nice

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Agent Orange:

dual weilding on the other hand gives rogues 2 chance to get sneak attack each round whihc is nice

Right, a melee rogue is the main use case I see for it (though they still have to choose between offhand attack and e.g. cunning action).

[boarass]

I did a whole bunch of math one time to compare the two and was surprised to discover that after accounting for various compensating factors, they're both about the same in Solasta. I don't have time to type up the math at the moment, but the takeaway is feel free to pick whichever one you think is cooler without worrying too much about it. You can also choose based on whether you prefer the character to be strength- or dexterity-based.

[Gorok Delvedeep]

Originally posted by Boss Tripp:

So, my favorite way to fight is dual wielding, is it as effective as 2 handed in this game or is it just like in 5e?

i feel like i get more mileage out of versatile-ing weapons. longsword, battleaxe, warhammer.

[Boss Tripp]

Originally posted by boarass:

I did a whole bunch of math one time to compare the two and was surprised to discover that after accounting for various compensating factors, they're both about the same in Solasta. I don't have time to type up the math at the moment, but the takeaway is feel free to pick whichever one you think is cooler without worrying too much about it. You can also choose based on whether you prefer the character to be strength- or dexterity-based.

Great news, was it with a particular class or in general?

[BW022]

Originally posted by Boss Tripp:

So, my favorite way to fight is dual wielding, is it as effective as 2 handed in this game or is it just like in 5e?

It is 5e rules. However, TWF is fine in 5e. Any class can use it, it allows multiple attacks as low-level, it allows spreading damage between multiple creatures, it dramatically increases the chances of one hit landing (especially useful if you have additional effects such as sneak attack, colossus slayer, smites, etc.), it can be used on dexterity-based characters, etc. It is as viable as 5e.

[Boss Tripp]

Two weapon fighting is not fine in 5e, lol. I’ve been gming it for years so, that’s false.

[boarass]

Originally posted by Boss Tripp:

Great news, was it with a particular class or in general?

I wrote a post on the Solasta subreddit going over the math:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrownOfTheMagister/comments/kdvgt1/dual_wielding_vs_twohanded_a_guide_with_math_tm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I'd say the two are equal across classes with the caveat that you need to consider whether the character can get the appropriate fighting style. For example, Paladins can get the 2H fighting style but not the DW fighting style, so 2H will be better for them.

In your case, OP, since you have a pre-existing desire to dual-wield, as long as the character is a Fighter or a Ranger and can pick up the DW fighting style, go wild!

[Boss Tripp]

Originally posted by boarass:

Originally posted by Boss Tripp:

Great news, was it with a particular class or in general?

I wrote a post on the Solasta subreddit going over the math:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CrownOfTheMagister/comments/kdvgt1/dual_wielding_vs_twohanded_a_guide_with_math_tm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I'd say the two are equal across classes with the caveat that you need to consider whether the character can get the appropriate fighting style. For example, Paladins can get the 2H fighting style but not the DW fighting style, so 2H will be better for them.

In your case, OP, since you have a pre-existing desire to dual-wield, as long as the character is a Fighter or a Ranger and can pick up the DW fighting style, go wild!

Dude, you don't know how u just made my day..... SWEET!

[boarass]

Originally posted by Boss Tripp:

Dude, you don't know how u just made my day..... SWEET!

I'm so happy this was helpful! Have fun!

[brothersword43]

You know, you can even get weird and TWF with a paladin. Nova strike those smites! That is worth it even with the stat bonus, depending on the situational. But even more important.. Fun!

[mike.xulima]

Originally posted by brothersword43:

You know, you can even get weird and TWF with a paladin. Nova strike those smites! That is worth it even with the stat bonus, depending on the situational. But even more important.. Fun!

They can't learn that style though IIRC.

[FieserMoep]

Due to the lack of Polearm Master or GWM Dual-Wielding has become quite decent. Dual Wielding in 5e sucks because the other alternatives are so good. But apparently they don't exist in Solasta?