Neverwinter

Neverwinter

craig234 Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:51pm
What is the story with this issue?
The top review says:

"87% of the game was scrapped with no more side quests.
About half of the world is scrapped
The main quest line has been shortened (what took months to complete now just took me 13 hours)"

What is the story?
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76561198379507013 Jun 16, 2023 @ 5:14am 
Hi Craig 234.

Now leveling is an insignificant part of the game, which is a shame, from my point of view, evidently, as I liked previous leveling, especially from level 60 to 80.

However, I don't agree that after level 20 the game focuses on making team dungeons to gain AD and the respective seals, as Irene says.

The most interesting part of all the changes made to the game in recent years are the Adventures which aim to reduce the boring repetition of the same quests day after day. Now quests in Adventures are not repeated and directly provide AD (5,000 AD each) in some adventures, or, in most cases, 100,000 K upon completion.

In addition, the Adventures provide the most interesting stories in the entire game, and are designed with much more care than the Queus Random, especially the more recent ones that are an authentic disaster.

Unfortunately, contrary to what the dev team claimed, the Adventures were not added with new maps, which would be quite easy, as it was enough to add the content that was removed; and I think I know why, as Cryptic realized that Adventures provide a lot of AD (if the players are smart), ultimately reducing the game's revenue.

It's a shame, Cryptic always takes one step forward followed by two steps back, and they still don't realize that this disastrous behavior keeps more and more players away.

It should be noted that Neverwinter, because it is based on D&D, manages to attract new players every month, but the problem is that Cryptic cannot retain them due to their predatory behavior.

Look at what happened when the Enchantments and Refining revision (changed with the sole aim of increasing income) led to a third of the players leaving.

This is the current state of the game, which now on its 10th anniversary, gives Cryptic a golden opportunity to correct many of the blunders it has made over the years; but, it seems, the mountain gave birth to a mouse, and Cryptic wasted yet another opportunity.

I know what will happen, Cryptic will concentrate on creating new games (see the campaign to attract new talent, especially those who know how to work with the Unreal 5 engine), and will explore current ones, mainly Neverwinter, until these die a natural death.
Last edited by fr.perola; Jun 16, 2023 @ 6:19am
NavFamG Jun 16, 2023 @ 7:33am 
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They reworked the game and did a level squish. The max is now lvl 20 and the level 1 to 20 period is now the tutorial. While doing it, the game will explain a number of different game concepts (better than before), give you a companion and a mount and gear.

I've seen people saying they completed the lvl 1 to 20 in an hour, but officially it's suppose to take around 12 hours.

XP was done away with and now you level up after completing certain milestone quests in the lvl 1 to 20 period. After lvl 20, Item Level is the driving factor.

When you hit 20, you move on to the Adventures, which were also reworked and are now in the form of a series of quests to completion, vice having to build up a certain number of points to advance in the adventure. The Item Level order also changed.

As to the reviewers comments: They did remove Blacklake District, Tower District, Blackdagger Ruins, Helm’s Hold, Pirate’s Skyhold, Rothe Valley, and Mount Hotenow from the leveling process. Rothe Valley has been moved to the Adventures section and some of the others will probably show back up there as well.

If you had any characters prior to the level squish, they all were reset to 20, no matter if they were level 1 or 80. Also because of the questing rework, if you check your journal you should see the new quests to complete the area's are out standing and just need to be turned in to complete that area and get the rewards.

If you played before, it's better to just create a brand new character and play through the experience vice trying to fix your old character to carry on.

Even better is to turn in any outstanding quests on your old character, then strip your old character of any items usable on your new character, thus boosting their item level which will help later on in the Adventures.
craig234 Jun 17, 2023 @ 12:01am 
Thanks for the helpful replies. It doesn't sound like the game is that nice to players.
NavFamG Jun 17, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by craig234:
Thanks for the helpful replies. It doesn't sound like the game is that nice to players.

It is up to the half way point or so of the adventures or around 31K item level. At that point the game stops carrying you and you either have to start spending money or grinding to keep increasing your item level.

One nice things past the 'easy' point, is when they release the new Adventure / Campaigns they have it open for ALL item levels (you get a boost up to what that area's number is) and you're able to play it. It's not as easy as if you were already that item level, but it does allow you to check out the area.

As I understand it, the 'open period' is only X amount long, but as long as you've started it within that period, you can keep going there to finish it all. It's just those that don't go while the 'open period' is running that are out of luck.
craig234 Jun 18, 2023 @ 10:46am 
So that's the game's financial model - fun for a period then a lot of pressure to spend?
NavFamG Jun 20, 2023 @ 6:09am 
Originally posted by craig234:
So that's the game's financial model - fun for a period then a lot of pressure to spend?

Well I don't know about the pressure part since nothing is ever said in game. I guess they hope players have gotten hooked enough that they WANT to continue playing past the easy point and are willing to do what ever to achieve it.

You get some extra's when you sub, there's an ingame store and the ever present loot boxes that hope you want to gamble by buying keys to open them for those super rare prizes.

While you can't filter them out like in LotRO, the one's you collect here can be sold to the junk vendors for some coin so picking them up isn't a total waste.

I guess their financial model is two fold: those that really like the game and are willing to pay for it and those that are weak willed enough to go the gambling route.

I for one, have never spent a single cent on the game and played all the old up to lvl 80 content and have played all the now content. I'm not into the campaigns as I'm not much for grinding, but I've done all the story quests in the Adventures.

Basically you'll get out of it, what you put in.
Not A Vampire Jun 21, 2023 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by craig234:
The top review says:

"87% of the game was scrapped with no more side quests.
About half of the world is scrapped
The main quest line has been shortened (what took months to complete now just took me 13 hours)"

What is the story?
The story is they wanted %95 of the players to quit.
craig234 Jun 23, 2023 @ 12:28am 
Originally posted by Not A Vampire:
The story is they wanted %95 of the players to quit.

Why?
Not A Vampire Jun 24, 2023 @ 7:49am 
i do not know but its the story the wrote.
NavFamG Jun 24, 2023 @ 6:37pm 
Originally posted by Not A Vampire:
i do not know but its the story the wrote.

The story WHO wrote?, because I doubt very much any company would actually make changes to a game JUST so they could drive off the player base, especially when all they'd have to do is shut the game down if so inclined.

The official reason the game changed (from the dev blog):

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/11489483-dev-blog%3A-new-leveling-experience#:~:text=We%20also%20wanted%20to%20talk,why%20we%20made%20these%20changes.&text=Streamline%20Leveling%20%E2%80%93%20Get%20players%20to,each%20level%20achieved%20feel%20rewarding.
Last edited by NavFamG; Jun 24, 2023 @ 6:37pm
Not A Vampire Jun 24, 2023 @ 7:20pm 
LOL you took what i wrote seriously?
and even MORE LOL is cryptic or imperfect worlds "Official reasons"
nothing but lies stacked on bs.

Hey! Nav..buddy... I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you... real cheap..
NavFamG Jun 25, 2023 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Not A Vampire:
LOL you took what i wrote seriously?
and even MORE LOL is cryptic or imperfect worlds "Official reasons"
nothing but lies stacked on bs.

Considering the weak willed among us think trying to eat tide pods and dance while stepping out of moving cars is an OK thing, it's not such a stretch to think some one would believe some random BS they read on twitter like you posted.

That aside, just what is the truth of the game changes since you think the official reason is 'nothing but lies stacked on bs'?
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Date Posted: Jun 15, 2023 @ 12:51pm
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