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FishyFrags Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:15am
Steelhead Salmon are not Salmon
Hey Woolf

I want to make it clear that Steelhead are not Salmon.

Steelhead are Rainbow Trout that migrate to the sea and back to freshwater, but are an entirely different species to the Rainbow Trout.

Do you have any proof that Steelhead are in Europe?
Last edited by FishyFrags; Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:20am
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Woolf ✔  [developer] Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:26am 
Steelhead is sea salmon or Atlantic salmon. Any salmon is rainbow trout
FishyFrags Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:29am 
Incorrect.

Steelhead are migratory rainbow trout

Salmon are not rainbow trout

Rainbow trout are trout

Atlantic Salmon are not Steelhead, otherwise myself and other in the UK would be calling them Steelhead and they are not the same species


You need to get your facts right before making assumptions and putting the wrong fish name in to the game.


See these websites

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelhead_trout

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/salmon-or-trout-what-the-heck-is-a-steelhead-anyway-1.4461827

https://www.psf.ca/species-lifecycle/steelhead

https://www.nwf.org/Educational-Resources/Wildlife-Guide/Fish/Rainbow-Trout-Steelhead
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Woolf ✔  [developer] Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:36am 
in Russian it is a сёмга - sea salmon
translator translates it - steelhead salmon
The rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss - also called Salmo gairdneri) is a species of salmonidae, native to the North American subcontinent where it is common, but also found in Europe and South America, where it has been introduced. The species is also called “rainbow salmon” in Canada, the most used English name being steelhead trout

FishyFrags Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:38am 
That's your translation, but it's not a salmon
Woolf ✔  [developer] Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Flying_Cyclist:
That's your translation, but it's not a salmon


ok i will translate this as "sea salmon"
FishyFrags Dec 14, 2019 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by FireStarter:
I was lost when the title stated, "Steelhead Salmon are not Salmon". Why are they called Salmon then? Maybe this was already answered too though, lol

They are not salmon as Woolf thinks.

They're basically rainbow trout that migrate to the sea and back to freshwater.

Woolf's translator translates it to 'salmon' and it is highly incorrect.
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Perverius Dec 14, 2019 @ 7:11am 
Originally posted by Flying_Cyclist:
Originally posted by FireStarter:
I was lost when the title stated, "Steelhead Salmon are not Salmon". Why are they called Salmon then? Maybe this was already answered too though, lol

They are not salmon as Woolf thinks.

They're basically rainbow trout that migrate to the sea and back to freshwater.

Woolf's translator translates it to 'salmon' and it is highly incorrect.

I assume it's the same as with Brown Trout in UK and Ireland. Some will stay in rivers and lakes and get nice colour (will be called Ferox, Dollaghan or just brown trout, depends on water they are genetically bound to settle in) and some will migrate to the sea, get silver colour and will be called sea trout. In general they are still the same fish, brown trout.
Perverius Dec 14, 2019 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by Woolf:
Originally posted by Flying_Cyclist:
That's your translation, but it's not a salmon


ok i will translate this as "sea salmon"

It's just called 'Atlantic Salmon'.
FishyFrags Dec 14, 2019 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Perverius:
Originally posted by Flying_Cyclist:

They are not salmon as Woolf thinks.

They're basically rainbow trout that migrate to the sea and back to freshwater.

Woolf's translator translates it to 'salmon' and it is highly incorrect.

I assume it's the same as with Brown Trout in UK and Ireland. Some will stay in rivers and lakes and get nice colour (will be called Ferox, Dollaghan or just brown trout, depends on water they are genetically bound to settle in) and some will migrate to the sea, get silver colour and will be called sea trout. In general they are still the same fish, brown trout.

Yes it's just the same as sea trout in the UK. Sea trout are migratory brown trout. (Being technical, slob trout are trout that stay in the brackish waters in estuaries).

Anyway, Steelhead are migratory rainbow trout.
Shai Dec 14, 2019 @ 9:28pm 
We had the same kind of discussion about other fish for the FR translation.
This debate can still last a long time and could be repeated on another fish ...
I suggest that the name of the fish be the one given in the region where it lives (map).
nettraxx Dec 14, 2019 @ 9:41pm 
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Billy08/15 Dec 15, 2019 @ 2:07am 
Maybe it would be better to provide the latin names of the fishes. It would make the translations much easier. For the german translation we often have to discuss which is the right name for the fishes too.
schnabltir Dec 15, 2019 @ 3:57am 
Again: We need the scientific names of all species in the game. Then you cannot make any mistakes translating.
sirkipalot Dec 15, 2019 @ 10:19am 
Atlantic Salmon (Salmon) = Salmo salar.
Steelhead (Rainbow Trout) = Oncorhynchus mykiss
Sea trout (Brown Trout) = Salmo trutta

All the common names given to sea run versions of the Actual species as has been factually correct in previous posts after the = are the scientific names for the Species. In brackets is the true species and the first names are common names used to describe sea run versions of their species.
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