TOO FAST. TOO SOON.

[TemmieNeko]

So, this game is cheating hardcore. I know you can't beat the grizzly bear fight, but i was still on my very first run, and i was not able to defeat the 2nd boss. they literally cheated.

[Raven]

You actually can defeat the Grizzly, kinda

[Raxyz]

Yup, it's a way to teach you the deathcards. You can also defeat the Grizzlies but probably not on the very first run, but don't worry about it. It's not something that'll gatekeep you.

[blueknite]

I just had this happen to me too XD I think it's so you dont beat the game your very first run. That'd be kind of anti climactic. He wants you to see some secrets.

[Behemothbear]

I made it all the way to The Trapper on my second run. He wasn't very happy that I was going to beat him, and I got Grizzly'd.

[Mongrel]

I managed to defeat the grizzlies. Had an evolved mothman on the field and a turn skip which was enough to win the fight

[Orio Prisco]

Oh so it didn't happen because i one shot the guy, it's because he cheats ? good to know i guess

[Blue Candle]

I understand the demo and the tutorial doing it but seeing it happen on the second world boss makes me to not want to buy the game at all. Games cheating is one thing, but when the game does it right in front of your face and so unashamed by it tells me it is a "that guy" GM (or DM for D&D) and experience tells me to avoid those kinds of people.

[Blue Demon]

From my experience it's always been to introduce new game mechanics. you arent playing the full game when you reach the 2nd boss the first time and then you get new mechanics that you can use to mix up the gameplay and make it more involved which would be hard to do if they introduced them mid run

[Raxyz]

Originally posted by 76561198046816686:

I understand the demo and the tutorial doing it but seeing it happen on the second world boss makes me to not want to buy the game at all. Games cheating is one thing, but when the game does it right in front of your face and so unashamed by it tells me it is a "that guy" GM (or DM for D&D) and experience tells me to avoid those kinds of people.

Tbh the game really wants you to avoid that kind of people, why do you think the game describes itself as "room escape" too?

[WZ]

is the Angler beatable?
even if I slow the fight down by a couple of rounds he still cheats

[VsTheWall]

Absolutely beatable. I haven't lost to the angler yet, and in the demo I was able to beat the prospector on the first try (after deleting the save data and starting over). Once you learn the mechanics you can either create some OP cards or you can unlock/transform others that can almost single-handedly win a fight

[WZ]

I'm not asking if his cup can be filled, that's easy
I'm asking about how to prevent him from cheating
When I fill his cup / snuff out his first candle, he instaspawns 8 flying grizzlies
Is this preventable or scripted / unavoidable?

His line (the title of this thread) would seem to imply I have to kill him slower
So I try again, delaying as much as I can, but he always cheats
Doesn't seem to actually matter how slow I go
Or am I supposed to beat 8 flying grizzlies?

In the demo, when this happens, it was clear you are supposed to die
Here it's not clear at all, because of that message

[TemmieNeko]

Originally posted by WZ:

I'm not asking if his cup can be filled, that's easy
I'm asking about how to prevent him from cheating
When I fill his cup / snuff out his first candle, he instaspawns 8 flying grizzlies
Is this preventable or scripted / unavoidable?

His line (the title of this thread) would seem to imply I have to kill him slower
So I try again, delaying as much as I can, but he always cheats
Doesn't seem to actually matter how slow I go
Or am I supposed to beat 8 flying grizzlies?

In the demo, when this happens, it was clear you are supposed to die
Here it's not clear at all, because of that message

basically, its stopping you bc you have to do X - which couold be a puzzlke outside of the game,

you need to do certain things to advance : thew plot : or he will kill you at the final blow every time.

[BDtetra]

just advance the plot. You'll know when you get weird cards. Its not there to "cheat" you, its there to prevent you from beating him before you figured out what you are suppose to do

[Raxyz]

Originally posted by WZ:

I'm not asking if his cup can be filled, that's easy
I'm asking about how to prevent him from cheating
When I fill his cup / snuff out his first candle, he instaspawns 8 flying grizzlies
Is this preventable or scripted / unavoidable?

His line (the title of this thread) would seem to imply I have to kill him slower
So I try again, delaying as much as I can, but he always cheats
Doesn't seem to actually matter how slow I go
Or am I supposed to beat 8 flying grizzlies?

In the demo, when this happens, it was clear you are supposed to die
Here it's not clear at all, because of that message

It's scripted. And YMMV but I thought it was pretty clear the run had to end there, especially since the game is advertised as a roguelike.