Tried to finally play through this game - Unending crashes and freezing

[Regen7]

Never finished this game or got past about 20 hours. Mostly because the game was so buggy at launch. Now I was hoping the game was stable after all these years for a full playthrough.

No matter what I do the game will Brick my computer anywhere from 2-20 minutes of gameplay, Not just a CTD I mean my computer will completely freeze and I have to hard restart with the power button. I've just about given up and have tried everything and I cannot pin point what is making it crash.

-I thought it was autosaves, turned off cross-platform = crash still happens.
-Deleted all mods and new install of game = crash still happens.
-Started a new save = crash still happens.
-Turned off DLSS and Ray tracing = crash still happens.
-Monitored GPU/CPU temps for overheating (around 70-80c with max settings) = crash still happens.
-Updated GPU drivers, cleaned out old drivers = crash still happens.
-Turned off XMP RAM profile = crash still happens
-Changed resolution and borderless window, vsync on/off = crash still happens.

This is the ONLY game I've had this issue with, so I'm finding hard to blame my PC.

Specs are
OS: Windows 10 x64
RAM: 32GB
CPU: i9-10850K 3.60GHz
GPU: Nvidia 4070 16GB
Disk (Game is installed to): Samsung 4TB 870 SSD)

[r.linder]

I have very similar specs:
OS: CachyOS Linux
CPU: i9-10850K @ 5000 MHz
RAM: 64 GB @ 3200 MT/s
GPU: MSI RTX 4070 TS 16GB @ Factory OC
SSD: Crucial P3 2TB

I run the game modded with a couple dozen mods, with RT psycho settings, DLSS quality w/ ray reconstruction and frame generation, and not a single crash. But when I had last played it on Windows years ago, wasn't as simple.

I still see a lot of people having crashes with every single update, I'm pretty sure the issue is more on the Windows side of things than anything else, something with the OS or with drivers that's screwing things up.

I would keep focusing on drivers, use DDU in safe mode if you haven't and make sure Windows Update settings aren't set to where it installs anything other than updates for Windows, the drivers it likes to pull tend to be absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Regen7]

Originally posted by r.linder:

I have very similar specs:
OS: CachyOS Linux
CPU: i9-10850K @ 5000 MHz
RAM: 64 GB @ 3200 MT/s
GPU: MSI RTX 4070 TS 16GB @ Factory OC
SSD: Crucial P3 2TB

I run the game modded with a couple dozen mods, with RT psycho settings, DLSS quality w/ ray reconstruction and frame generation, and not a single crash. But when I had last played it on Windows years ago, wasn't as simple.

I still see a lot of people having crashes with every single update, I'm pretty sure the issue is more on the Windows side of things than anything else, something with the OS or with drivers that's screwing things up.

I haven't updated windows in a while I'll try that and see if it fixes it tomorrow.

The only other thing it could maybe be is a defective RAM chip as I have one that is few years old now. But I'd expect to see problems in other games if this was the case and last memtest I ran while back was fine.

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That sucks. I have in overdrive settings and the game works great for me and it's beautiful

[SkyNet]

Are you doing any overclocking on your processor?

[Regen7]

Originally posted by SkyNet:

Are you doing any overclocking on your processor?

No overclocking on anything.

I managed to do the flathead retrieval from Maelstrom quest without it crashing, after I walked to Lizzies Bar to start that quest and I pressed F5 to autosave, Game/PC froze and crashed so still happening. Updated Windows and turned off Mods on the Red Launcher, just can't figure it out.

[Regen7]

Going to try uninstalling NVIDIA App as suggested in this reddit post, guy was having the exact issue I'm having : https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/1h1yq4f/my_computer_completely_freeze_when_i_play_at/

[Regen7]

Update: PC froze after finishing the first BD quest at Lizzies bar when I pressed F5. Gonna have to shelf this game for now, hopefully some patches for the game/drivers will fix in the future.

[r.linder]

You can rule things out by trying to run the game on Linux if you have another drive to test it on, if the problem doesn't happen for you on Linux then it's something related to Windows or drivers

If you have a large enough flash drive that can work too

https://pop.system76.com

In the Steam for Linux client: Steam > Settings > Compatibility > Enable Steam Play for supported and all other titles

[Tokenn]

Originally posted by Regen7:

Update: PC froze after finishing the first BD quest at Lizzies bar when I pressed F5. Gonna have to shelf this game for now, hopefully some patches for the game/drivers will fix in the future.

You have a better system than I had when I started playing. Please don't take it personally, but there's something wrong with your system hardware, your mod setup or maybe your old version of Windows. You might also want to update your motherboard BIOS if it's out of date. There is no way this game should freeze your whole system when you try to do a quicksave.

[Regen7]

Thanks for the suggestions. I have some good news, I tried one last suggestion I saw in other forums and disabled CPU Hyperthreading in the BIOS. So far there has been no crashes. I might have found the cause.

Originally posted by r.linder:

You can rule things out by trying to run the game on Linux if you have another drive to test it on, if the problem doesn't happen for you on Linux then it's something related to Windows or drivers

If you have a large enough flash drive that can work too

https://pop.system76.com

In the Steam for Linux client: Steam > Settings > Compatibility > Enable Steam Play for supported and all other titles

Thanks, if the crashes start again I might try this.

Originally posted by Tokenn:

Originally posted by Regen7:

Update: PC froze after finishing the first BD quest at Lizzies bar when I pressed F5. Gonna have to shelf this game for now, hopefully some patches for the game/drivers will fix in the future.

You have a better system than I had when I started playing. Please don't take it personally, but there's something wrong with your system hardware, your mod setup or maybe your old version of Windows. You might also want to update your motherboard BIOS if it's out of date. There is no way this game should freeze your whole system when you try to do a quicksave.

Thanks, I dont take it personal dw. I thought the same thing it could be my system, but the thing is if that was the case, why haven't I had these issues with other games? I have updated Windows and the BIOS, but for now the culprit might have been hyperthreading.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Regen7:

Thanks for the suggestions. I have some good news, I tried one last suggestion I saw in other forums and disabled CPU Hyperthreading in the BIOS. So far there has been no crashes. I might have found the cause.

Originally posted by r.linder:

You can rule things out by trying to run the game on Linux if you have another drive to test it on, if the problem doesn't happen for you on Linux then it's something related to Windows or drivers

If you have a large enough flash drive that can work too

https://pop.system76.com

In the Steam for Linux client: Steam > Settings > Compatibility > Enable Steam Play for supported and all other titles

Thanks, if the crashes start again I might try this.

Originally posted by Tokenn:

You have a better system than I had when I started playing. Please don't take it personally, but there's something wrong with your system hardware, your mod setup or maybe your old version of Windows. You might also want to update your motherboard BIOS if it's out of date. There is no way this game should freeze your whole system when you try to do a quicksave.

Thanks, I dont take it personal dw. I thought the same thing it could be my system, but the thing is if that was the case, why haven't I had these issues with other games? I have updated Windows and the BIOS, but for now the culprit might have been hyperthreading.

I don't see why HyperThreading would be the issue since I have the same CPU and when I had crashes on Windows, it was only a few times and was often related to mods

It would happen a lot more to a lot more people as well, seems more likely that it would be a degraded CPU or something if it was something with the CPU

[Tokenn]

Originally posted by Regen7:

Thanks for the suggestions. I have some good news, I tried one last suggestion I saw in other forums and disabled CPU Hyperthreading in the BIOS. So far there has been no crashes. I might have found the cause.

Thanks, I dont take it personal dw. I thought the same thing it could be my system, but the thing is if that was the case, why haven't I had these issues with other games? I have updated Windows and the BIOS, but for now the culprit might have been hyperthreading.

Heh...there are some people that take it _very_ personally when you suggest something might be wrong with their PC system.

CP2077 is a very CPU-intensive game and puts unusual stresses on the CPU. It's great that you seem to have found the problem, however. I would still recommend you update your BIOS if you aren't on the latest version.

There's also a game setting under Utilities to switch between P-Core usage and CPU auto-hybrid usage. If you ever need to turn Hyper-threading back on, you might want to play with that setting to see if it makes a difference. My 13th-Gen system _really_ doesn't like to be set to P-Cores usage...

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Tokenn:

Originally posted by Regen7:

Thanks for the suggestions. I have some good news, I tried one last suggestion I saw in other forums and disabled CPU Hyperthreading in the BIOS. So far there has been no crashes. I might have found the cause.

Thanks, I dont take it personal dw. I thought the same thing it could be my system, but the thing is if that was the case, why haven't I had these issues with other games? I have updated Windows and the BIOS, but for now the culprit might have been hyperthreading.

Heh...there are some people that take it _very_ personally when you suggest something might be wrong with their PC system.

CP2077 is a very CPU-intensive game and puts unusual stresses on the CPU. It's great that you seem to have found the problem, however. I would still recommend you update your BIOS if you aren't on the latest version.

There's also a game setting under Utilities to switch between P-Core usage and CPU auto-hybrid usage. If you ever need to turn Hyper-threading back on, you might want to play with that setting to see if it makes a difference. My 13th-Gen system _really_ doesn't like to be set to P-Cores usage...

P-cores weren't a thing until 12th gen, he has 10th gen

[Tokenn]

Originally posted by r.linder:

P-cores weren't a thing until 12th gen, he has 10th gen

In that case I'd _definitely_ check that setting. I don't know if the setting would even appear on his system, but if it did, it probably wouldn't help.

[Sassanid]

If the crashing continues, make sure to open up your PC case and clean any dust, use a high power blower if possible. Sometimes dust gathered in the PSU can cause hard crashes like this with no error messages or anything, just a hard crash, forcing a restart