Low fps even after huge GPU upgrade

[MAQUINAX]

So I upgraded from a RX 580 to a RX 7600, first idea was to try this game, since all the YT videos I saw with this card and cpu combo displayed it running amazingly at the highest settings. So I install new gpu, new drivers and I launch the game. First thing I notice is that its running at the same FPS as before upgrading at mid-low settings. I raise up the settings and it runs a bit worse. But then I do a benchmark (1080p High Settings) and it says my average FPS is 70 which Im really just tryna get 60 tbh, but the benchmark is lying to me. What is the issue?

RX 7600
Ryzen 5 3600
16gb ram

[Mei]

Lower crowd density to medium.

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by Mei:

Lower crowd density to medium.

I tried both medium, high, and low too, no notable performance changes. Thing is I played with crowd density at high before upgrading lol.

[Mei]

Ok I am a bit confused now. What FPS are you getting on what settings that you think are too low?

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by Mei:

Ok I am a bit confused now. What FPS are you getting on what settings that you think are too low?

In the lowest settings possible, with FSR at Ultra Performance, I get like 40 to 50
In the settings I used when I had my 580 (mix of mid-high-low) I get like 30-40 (literally the framrate I used to get when I had my 580)
and the highest settings I get like 30-40 (50 if im looking at the sky lmao)
FSR has no effect on performance, good or bad.

Im not using RTX, I have my frames locked at 75 and playing at 1080p. In every video I see with this card and cpu, they be getting 60 and over fps while also pushing the game to 1440p.

[addict]

its getting bottleneck , upgrading ur single hardware without noticing every other element is a big mistake . you should check your cpu first( maybe its to weak to carry the system) and then your main what pci 16x slot does it support , the 7600 require pci 4.0 while your cpu or your main only have 3.0 maybe. lets figure out your issue

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by datdinhcaocongnghe:

its getting bottleneck , upgrading ur single hardware without noticing every other element is a big mistake . you should check your cpu first( maybe its to weak to carry the system) and then your main what pci 16x slot does it support , the 7600 require pci 4.0 while your cpu or your main only have 3.0 maybe. lets figure out your issue

You see, that's what I thought at first! "bottleneck maybe?" , but I actually researched this before getting the card (It happened to me before, I had an AMD FX 6300 and bought an RX 570 lol). Apparently I would only have to worry about bottleneck if I'm trying to get frames higher than 80 or 1440p, or if I pair this with something insane like an RTX 3090. Everywhere I saw, it said I should be fine with this combo, even when talking about this game, I also saw videos of people running the game perfectly with my exact specs (here is one of them https://youtu.be/8yWNPkMMgSY?si=huDVhwAngM-jIRCN) So I was still confused at what was the problem. The thing is, even if it was bottlenecked, there would still be a performance increase even in medium settings, no? (atleast thats how I remember when I was bottlenecked with an FX card and an rx 570, I still saw big performance increase in games) I still get like 30-50 fps in mid settings, and 30-40 in max. My motherboard is a pretty modern mobo

[Mei]

How is your utilization? Like in game with GPU and CPU?
That video is from before the 2.0 overhaul, which did increase system requirements a bit.
Also, where are you testing? the DLC area in general have worse performance than the base game.

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by Mei:

How is your utilization? Like in game with GPU and CPU?
That video is from before the 2.0 overhaul, which did increase system requirements a bit.
Also, where are you testing? the DLC area in general have worse performance than the base game.

GPU utilization is all over the place, 45-90. CPU utilization is at steady 80s-90s.
I'm testing in the area in front of V's default appartment (I think its the same area as the first E3 showcase) the area from the end of Edgerunners and Jig street, I tried both day and night time and got the same framerates on both times of the day. I have not tested in dogtown, but in my old GPU, I ran that area pretty well considering it was a lower end GPU for this game.

[Mei]

Sounds like some sort of weirdness going on, but not really sure exactly why.
is SAM and XMP enabled in bios?
Did you make a clean driver install with DDU when you changed your GPU? If not, try that.
Are you sure your RAM is in dual channel?

If you follow these settings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p1jVgv8EBU
Are you still getting much worse performance than the video shows?

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by Mei:

Sounds like some sort of weirdness going on, but not really sure exactly why.
is SAM and XMP enabled in bios?
Did you make a clean driver install with DDU when you changed your GPU? If not, try that.
Are you sure your RAM is in dual channel?

If you follow these settings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p1jVgv8EBU
Are you still getting much worse performance than the video shows?

Ok so I just enabled XMP, my ram was running at 2300mhz instead of the 3600mhz it was capable of. There is no SAM setting on my bios so I can't really do that. I just did a DDU reinstall of the drivers, and I made sure my RAM is on dual channel. I followed the video settings and although the benchmark says I get good FPS (Average 72, lowest 61), actual gameplay is still running at like 30-40-50 . So basically, nothing has changed even with those fixes.

[Mei]

Unfortunately I am kind of out of ideas of what the cause could be. While unlikely you could try to set windows to high performance mode and go to Go to c:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Local\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077 and open UserSetting.json, search for "raytracing" and make sure everything is truly off.

[MAQUINAX]

Originally posted by Mei:

Unfortunately I am kind of out of ideas of what the cause could be. While unlikely you could try to set windows to high performance mode and go to Go to c:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Local\CD Projekt Red\Cyberpunk 2077 and open UserSetting.json, search for "raytracing" and make sure everything is truly off.

Don't worry bro, thanks anyways for the help, but my friend and I identified the issue. It turns out my CPU is running at extremely high temperatures as it is using the stock fan that came with it. And thus the GPU isn't running at its full potential, same with the CPU. I am now planning on getting a water cooling kit as well as a Ryzen 7.

[Mei]

Originally posted by MAQUINAX:

Don't worry bro, thanks anyways for the help, but my friend and I identified the issue. It turns out my CPU is running at extremely high temperatures as it is using the stock fan that came with it. And thus the GPU isn't running at its full potential, same with the CPU. I am now planning on getting a water cooling kit as well as a Ryzen 7.

Damn, don't know how I forgot such an obvious troubleshooting step. But I am glad you got it fixed.

[Phynrae]

Originally posted by MAQUINAX:

it is using the stock fan that came with it.

Uff.. reading that hurt my very soul..

Well, glad you're finally replacing it with something better. Here's hoping it'll give you atleast a solid 60 FPS.

[Maviba]

Originally posted by MAQUINAX:

Originally posted by Mei:

How is your utilization? Like in game with GPU and CPU?
That video is from before the 2.0 overhaul, which did increase system requirements a bit.
Also, where are you testing? the DLC area in general have worse performance than the base game.

GPU utilization is all over the place, 45-90. CPU utilization is at steady 80s-90s.
I'm testing in the area in front of V's default appartment (I think its the same area as the first E3 showcase) the area from the end of Edgerunners and Jig street, I tried both day and night time and got the same framerates on both times of the day. I have not tested in dogtown, but in my old GPU, I ran that area pretty well considering it was a lower end GPU for this game.

You need a CPU upgrade now. Its too weak for your vcard and clearly bottlenecking.
Your GPU can only render , what your CPU can calculate.