Frame Generation causes studder

[[RAID]Missionary]

I finally got a 4090, was excited to play this game, but still cant get good frame rates maxed out. I thought I would get 60FPS in 4K max settings, I was wrong.

So I am trying the DLSS: Quality setting, but with frame gen on it visually studders. I dont understand the point of it? With it off I get about 43FPS. on, 70 but studders every 2 seconds so its bad.

Obviously with DLSS off and trying to natively get 4K, I get about 22FPS. Sad.

I know a lot of people put it at 2K resolution but I dont understand why if you have a 4K monitor and 4090. I want it to look as high def/detailed as possible. I guess I will have to settle with 43 FPS.

Or is there any settings that are resource heavy that you wont notice a difference I can turn off? I have already tuned turned off:
film grain, chromatic whatever, and motion blur completely off.

Im just suprised frame gen actually makes it worse.

[Helifax]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1091500/discussions/0/7098294290808636727/

[PanPan]

Originally posted by RAIDMissionary:

Im just suprised frame gen actually makes it worse.

Am not, AMD fluid Motion is a stutter mess...

[-BMF-]

Originally posted by RAIDMissionary:

I finally got a 4090, was excited to play this game, but still cant get good frame rates maxed out. I thought I would get 60FPS in 4K max settings, I was wrong.

So I am trying the DLSS: Quality setting, but with frame gen on it visually studders. I dont understand the point of it? With it off I get about 43FPS. on, 70 but studders every 2 seconds so its bad.

Obviously with DLSS off and trying to natively get 4K, I get about 22FPS. Sad.

I know a lot of people put it at 2K resolution but I dont understand why if you have a 4K monitor and 4090. I want it to look as high def/detailed as possible. I guess I will have to settle with 43 FPS.

Or is there any settings that are resource heavy that you wont notice a difference I can turn off? I have already tuned turned off:
film grain, chromatic whatever, and motion blur completely off.

Im just suprised frame gen actually makes it worse.

Whats the rest of your PC specs? Im running a 4090 as well and frame gen is working perfectly, I do not have a 4k monitor though.

[ingus76]

RTX4090, cpu 12900kf, resolution 2560 x 1440, ssd m.2 nvme, RAM 32Gb

RT Psycho all maxed i got stable 60fps.

All maxed + path tracing I are forced to turn on DLSS Quality, to keep stable 60fps.

[[RAID]Missionary]

Originally posted by -BMF-:

Originally posted by RAIDMissionary:

I finally got a 4090, was excited to play this game, but still cant get good frame rates maxed out. I thought I would get 60FPS in 4K max settings, I was wrong.

So I am trying the DLSS: Quality setting, but with frame gen on it visually studders. I dont understand the point of it? With it off I get about 43FPS. on, 70 but studders every 2 seconds so its bad.

Obviously with DLSS off and trying to natively get 4K, I get about 22FPS. Sad.

I know a lot of people put it at 2K resolution but I dont understand why if you have a 4K monitor and 4090. I want it to look as high def/detailed as possible. I guess I will have to settle with 43 FPS.

Or is there any settings that are resource heavy that you wont notice a difference I can turn off? I have already tuned turned off:
film grain, chromatic whatever, and motion blur completely off.

Im just suprised frame gen actually makes it worse.

Whats the rest of your PC specs? Im running a 4090 as well and frame gen is working perfectly, I do not have a 4k monitor though.

its a brand spanking new computer.

i9 14900K 3.2ghz
32gb ram
RTX 4090 OC (white strix)
m.2 NVME
4K monitor playing 3840x2160

Each one of you that replied saying youre getting great 60 FPS are not running 4K.

The graphics difference is staggering when you actually compare on a 4K monitor.

[bennydigitall]

First enable vsync in Nvidia control panel.

Then, in the games video options, set a frame rate cap that you can achieve 100% of the time, like 50 or 60fps. Enable frame gen. It will now double your fps and be smooth and stutter free.

*Note* If your base frame rate (before frame gen) ever dips below your selected frame cap (IE under 50fps), you will likely get stutter.

RTX4090 & 7950X3D maxed settings, getting around 100-120fps at 4k.

[AzureLotus95]

now i don't own a rtx4090 i own a amd rx 6950 xt, But one the things i noticed with raytracing is i have to turn off screen space reflections and ambient, Ambient occlusion those seem to tank fps when i have raytracing or pathtracing enable.

also make sure windows 11 vrr setting isn't enabled i get weird stuff happening on all my games when thats on and i have tested on multiple games with it on vs off and vrr on seems to causing a bit of frame time stuttering. (For me at least)

Also try checking for corrupted files on your pc

run command prompt in admin mode

then type this command. sfc/scannow

this will allow you to know if you have corrupted files and it will also repair them in the process not just check for corrupted files.

if none of this helps i'm srry i tried.

[Magic Tofu Cat]

why did you waste your money with the 5090 around the corner.. your gpu could be bust.. doe

[Father Lamb]

Originally posted by PanPan:

Originally posted by RAIDMissionary:

Im just suprised frame gen actually makes it worse.

Am not, AMD fluid Motion is a stutter mess...

Works amazing here with a 7900 XT with major gains too. Zero stutter, I can even use path tracing with it.

I've used it in countless games with no stutter. I don't get why people say its awful.

BUT

7900x - sn 770 Black (a pretty beefy m2)

But I am also running it on 3440x1440 not 4k,

Maybe AMD's FG is chaotic on 4k only? lol

[Bilbo Baggins]

There is a youtube channel called BenchmarKing, use his optimized settings to get your base fps higher. If you are not getting 55+ fps, FG is really bad.

You should also check your gpu usage because right now there is a bug causes performance degredation over time (Gpu usage drops to ~%75-80) if you enable RR and FG at the same time at 4K. I already contacted CDPROJECTRED about it and many others also. This problem occurs if you are playing at any resolution over 2560*1440, even 2560*1600 is bugged.
This wasn't happenning before patch 2.1 btw.

You can use Special K to disable reflex in-game and fix the problem, but it becomes a laggy mess so I don't recommend it.

[Bilbo Baggins]

You can also try using DLSS Balanced, it looks the same as DLSS Quality at 4K. At least to my eyes :)

There is a mod called Cyberpunk Ultra Plus Better Path Tracing and Stutter Hotfix [www.nexusmods.com] on Nexus Mods, you can give it a shot too.

[Father Lamb]

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins:

There is a youtube channel called BenchmarKing, use his optimized settings to get your base fps higher. If you are not getting 55+ fps, FG is really bad.

You should also check your gpu usage because right now there is a bug causes performance degredation over time (Gpu usage drops to ~%75-80) if you enable RR and FG at the same time at 4K. I already contacted CDPROJECTRED about it and many others also. This problem occurs if you are playing at any resolution over 2560*1440, even 2560*1600 is bugged.
This wasn't happenning before patch 2.1 btw.

You can use Special K to disable reflex in-game and fix the problem, but it becomes a laggy mess so I don't recommend it.

Played for hours at 3440x1440.. never once had usage drop, it was super stable.

So I'd assume THAT part is more an nvidia issue.

Forward that to Nvidia themselves for sure if that's the case.

[Bilbo Baggins]

Alan Wake 2 uses DLSS, DLSS-D and DLSS-G as well and it runs okay (AW2 also uses the same Streamline versions). And you can't have this problem with AMD because it only happens when RR enabled. So I have no idea if Nvidia is to blame or not. Like I said this problem started with patch 2.1 and still not fixed.

There is a mod that fixes the problem without disabling Reflex but it out-of-date and crashes the game everytime there is a phonecall.

[Father Lamb]

Originally posted by Bilbo Baggins:

Alan Wake 2 uses DLSS, DLSS-D and DLSS-G as well and it runs okay (AW2 also uses the same Streamline versions). And you can't have this problem with AMD because it only happens when RR enabled. So I have no idea if Nvidia is to blame or not. Like I said this problem started with patch 2.1 and still not fixed.

There is a mod that fixes the problem without disabling Reflex but it out-of-date and crashes the game everytime there is a phonecall.

See I didn't know it was a ray reconstruction thing my bad lol


I mean if that's the case yeah it's an nvidia thing atm.

I can say after the update I do have an odd thing but it's not game breaking. An odd tiny rectangle the size of a pencil tip on the screen when fsr is disabled. So there's that lol you're not alone.

It's just cyberpunk too.

[Khasius]

In my case, the Nvidia app causes me to stutter, when the overlay is activated, I remove it and I notice it smoother