I am uninstalling Geforce Experience, this is unnecessary bloatware

[The Grin]

I read through many forums and on steam that the driver remains lead to game instabilities.
Majority of my game runs great but cyberpunk is a real issue .
I permanently have Geforce Experience running in the background and I guess it's the cause of all my random CTDs (flatlines btw).

How do I proceed then to always have a clean install of future drivers ?
I uninstall geforce experience then, I use the Nvidia debloat programme and after that I only install the Nvidia driver through the windows updater right ?

[Silverbane7]

Nope.
Best way I have found in the past is to manually download the best driver from their page.
It's been a while since I had to update, so my memory isn't fresh, but you do a clean install with that downloaded file.
(I'm sure some Techie has done a how to vid on YouTube to show you step by step tho)
You make sure not to use their recommend method (since that installs the experience, and the reason you are getting the ctd's is that experience is probably updating your drivers every week/day) and just install what you need.

I had a desktop upgrade years ago. Lady came in needing a new graphics card as her old one died. Boss installed it, but used 'recomended' to install. She came back next week, her programs stopped working, nothing she tried to run worked.
Now this lady was not a gamer.
She was a crafter, greetings card maker. Had lots of expensive programs that were old. Like windowsXP old lol, running in compatibility mode on win7.
And they don't make those programs anymore, tho they still sell them (you would think they would update them, but *shrug.... business)
After seeing the ctd messages, we worked out it was the driver. When I got to the desktop, I noticed the Nvidia experience was running, remembered my own issues with older games and it.
So, I uninstalled the whole Nvidia shebang and manually installed the stable driver with only the basics. Just the drivers, nothing else. Wasn't like she needed 3d exceleration or Virtu headset support lol.
Programs worked like a charm after that.

Think only folks that run a new game (brand new, not new to them) every week/month need the experience myself. Rather manually install them if/when I get graphical issues.

[dot]

Windows Update drivers are not even nearly kept to date, if you run on the need of updating drivers or installing a specific version because of some issue, you will much probably have to download them from manufacturer page.

As you said, my experience is that most games run just as expected, in my case most is every game but cp77 and bannerlord the ones that I`ve had issue with. I have 15~ games installed at a time. Many people were complaining about Cp77 introducing new crashes with the last patch, and that was also my case, I didn`t have that many on release 4-5 crashes during a whole run, didn`t have any on a 1.4 run, and now yesterday in less than an hour had a crash on a new run. Really is a pity if the game that you wanna play right now is Cp77 because at least imo, the best bet to solve the issue is just wait for them to fix it.

[The Grin]

Originally posted by dot:

Windows Update drivers are not even nearly kept to date, if you run on the need of updating drivers or installing a specific version because of some issue, you will much probably have to download them from manufacturer page.

As you said, my experience is that most games run just as expected, in my case most is every game but cp77 and bannerlord the ones that I`ve had issue with. I have 15~ games installed at a time. Many people were complaining about Cp77 introducing new crashes with the last patch, and that was also my case, I didn`t have that many on release 4-5 crashes during a whole run, didn`t have any on a 1.4 run, and now yesterday in less than an hour had a crash on a new run. Really is a pity if the game that you wanna play right now is Cp77 because at least imo, the best bet to solve the issue is just wait for them to fix it.

Yes you are right, it's strange how actually this game in particular is so unstable even thought it's one of the best games ever. The devs will need to really make a last-ditch effort into stability problems.
I am completely uninstalling CP2077, searching for all hidden files in my computer to uninstall or destroy them (crash dumps, hidden reports, etc...) so there is no left over file bon to CP2077.
I will be waiting for the new 1,7 update. It might be the same crash circus since all mods will need to be updated but this time it's really too much.

[The Grin]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

Nope.
Best way I have found in the past is to manually download the best driver from their page.
It's been a while since I had to update, so my memory isn't fresh, but you do a clean install with that downloaded file.
(I'm sure some Techie has done a how to vid on YouTube to show you step by step tho)
You make sure not to use their recommend method (since that installs the experience, and the reason you are getting the ctd's is that experience is probably updating your drivers every week/day) and just install what you need.

I had a desktop upgrade years ago. Lady came in needing a new graphics card as her old one died. Boss installed it, but used 'recomended' to install. She came back next week, her programs stopped working, nothing she tried to run worked.
Now this lady was not a gamer.
She was a crafter, greetings card maker. Had lots of expensive programs that were old. Like windowsXP old lol, running in compatibility mode on win7.
And they don't make those programs anymore, tho they still sell them (you would think they would update them, but *shrug.... business)
After seeing the ctd messages, we worked out it was the driver. When I got to the desktop, I noticed the Nvidia experience was running, remembered my own issues with older games and it.
So, I uninstalled the whole Nvidia shebang and manually installed the stable driver with only the basics. Just the drivers, nothing else. Wasn't like she needed 3d exceleration or Virtu headset support lol.
Programs worked like a charm after that.

Think only folks that run a new game (brand new, not new to them) every week/month need the experience myself. Rather manually install them if/when I get graphical issues.

I got rid of Geforce Experience (all the "container and monitoring files" from the task managers are gone! they were eating up additionnal ressources...my god). What looks like a "fast and easy install tool" is actually worse than expected. Bloatware is illegal and forced to the customers we are.
I will really pay attention next time and use the easiest and safest way of installing the drivers directly from the website.

[envirovore]

Originally posted by Jadam Ensen (^3^):

How do I proceed then to always have a clean install of future drivers ?

Use DDU in safe mode between driver installs, be sure to go into the options in it and tell it to NOT let windows download and install new drivers upon reboot (or just run it and install the new driver with your internet connection disabled).

Manually download the installer package for your specific gpu from nVidia's download site, and when installing it be sure to *not* select the 'Geforce Experience' option.

In fact, the only one you'll need to select is the driver itself, the audio and physx portions of the driver have been unchanged for quite some time now.

[The Grin]

Originally posted by envirovore:

Originally posted by Jadam Ensen (^3^):

How do I proceed then to always have a clean install of future drivers ?

Use DDU in safe mode between driver installs, be sure to go into the options in it and tell it to NOT let windows download and install new drivers upon reboot (or just run it and install the new driver with your internet connection disabled).

Manually download the installer package for your specific gpu from nVidia's download site, and when installing it be sure to *not* select the 'Geforce Experience' option.

In fact, the only one you'll need to select is the driver itself, the audio and physx portions of the driver have been unchanged for quite some time now.

OK, so installing the driver only. Because I feel like additionnal options might create another mess.

[Silverbane7]

what envirovore said

'In fact, the only one you'll need to select is the driver itself, the audio and physx portions of the driver have been unchanged for quite some time now.'

i always make sure to install these items. (usually because i'm installing for others)
only reason i would have installed anything more was the customer was going to install something like a CoD type game or was buying a machine spec'd to play VR and Virtu's lol

[envirovore]

Originally posted by Silverbane7:

what envirovore said

'In fact, the only one you'll need to select is the driver itself, the audio and physx portions of the driver have been unchanged for quite some time now.'

i always make sure to install these items. (usually because i'm installing for others)
only reason i would have installed anything more was the customer was going to install something like a CoD type game or was buying a machine spec'd to play VR and Virtu's lol

I check to see if the version number had changed for the audio driver and physx build, if they;re the same I'll opt to not re-install them, though there's no harm in installing them either way to ensure they'll continue to function as they should.

[Tokenn]

Use a freeware utility called NVCleanstall to completely delete your old drivers and reinstall them without GeForce Experience. It's simple and easy...it solved pretty much all my video driver problems. Merely updating your drivers rather than cleanly installing them leaves a lot of residual junk that can cause problems, IMO.

Currently I'm having no problems at all with drivers downloaded with GeForce Experience, but it is unnecessary for certain. NVCLeanstall will also alert you to new driver upgrades, or allow you to install older drivers if those work better for you.

RTX3070 GPU Driver 534.18

[Game Cooker US Rocks VR]

I don't think Geforce Experience is a resource hog. It works in conjunction with your GPU and gives you a lot of good information and ways to customize your graphics and many other things.
When you go up to the driver tab you can say custom install and say clean install when it asks. It will uninstall the old one and put the new one in.
Also it depends on what you are doing how your system will behave. If you are doing gaming and content creation or streaming use the studio driver. That may make things more stable if you are doing that kind of stuff with gaming.
That is my 2 cents. Obviously, you may do whatever you feel comfortable with. :)