[LINUX] Poor Performance, Low GPU Utilization

[simcye]

I get roughly 20fps no matter what I do no matter what settings on my system. I have to use Proton Experimental instead of GE because GE just crashes.

Computer Information:
    Manufacturer:  ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    Model:  ROG CROSSHAIR VIII IMPACT
    Form Factor: Desktop
    No Touch Input Detected

Processor Information:
    CPU Vendor:  AuthenticAMD
    CPU Brand:  AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor             

Operating System Version:
    "Arch Linux" (64 bit)
    Kernel Name:  Linux
    Kernel Version:  5.17.6-zen1-1-zen
    X Server Vendor:  The X.Org Foundation
    X Server Release:  12101003
    X Window Manager:  KWin
    Steam Runtime Version:  steam-runtime_0.20220315.0

Video Card:
    Driver:  AMD AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navy_flounder, LLVM 13.0.1, DRM 3.44, 5.17.6-zen1-1-zen)
    Driver Version:  4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 22.0.4
    OpenGL Version: 4.6
    Desktop Color Depth: 24 bits per pixel
    Monitor Refresh Rate: 164 Hz
    VendorID:  0x1002
    DeviceID:  0x73df
    Revision Not Detected
    Number of Monitors:  2
    Number of Logical Video Cards:  1
    Primary Display Resolution:  2560 x 1440
    Desktop Resolution: 3760 x 1600
    Primary Display Size: 27.44" x 15.43" (31.46" diag)
                                            69.7cm x 39.2cm (79.9cm diag)
    Primary VRAM: 12288 MB

Memory:
    RAM:  32073 MB

[Bogmore]

Sounds like something in your system is causing problem. Try reducing the screen size.

[simcye]

Originally posted by Bogmore:

Sounds like something in your system is causing problem. Try reducing the screen size.

yeah tried changing every setting imaginable and no matter what I do it's 20-30fps

[Death Approaches]

you also say "low gpu utilization" but display no proof of this, are you just guessing because the frames are lower than you expect? What utility are you using to monitor this?

I'm not an AMD person but there has to be something like nvidia-smi right? nvidia-smi dmon --id 0 --select pucmtv --delay 10 etc? To show power consumption, utilization, VRAM consumed, temperature, etc for logging/monitoring?

[Death Approaches]

I linked to an external site showing frames are not that far off expectations considering you're running via proton and it's not even a supported game yet (and you found out personally that Thomas's GloriousEggroll current 7.x builds just exit while trying), but Sardu is told to not let those stand - don't be mad at him, it's not personal. It's got to be the most nightmare moderating job on all of steam and I kind of love him* for it. (* don't know him, could be any pronoun, but Sardaukar are traditionally male)

[simcye]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

you also say "low gpu utilization" but display no proof of this, are you just guessing because the frames are lower than you expect? What utility are you using to monitor this?

I'm not an AMD person but there has to be something like nvidia-smi right? nvidia-smi dmon --id 0 --select pucmtv --delay 10 etc? To show power consumption, utilization, VRAM consumed, temperature, etc for logging/monitoring?

https://imgur.com/a/F4zkYX3
I didn't bother with the stats from other runs because they all looked the same. every benchmark I run gets about the same results. Experimental vs 7.0-2 doesn't make a difference.
https://www.protondb.com/app/1091500 ProtonDB users seem to have much better luck running the game.

EDIT: Saw the most recent post on protondb about using 6.3-8, got much better performance, but gameplay gets microstutters and wild fps swings, not stable at all. RT is also not available which is dissapointing
https://imgur.com/a/QhBvpKv


windows results:
solid steady framerate, gameplay is smooth, like it should be
https://imgur.com/a/zY1MAaO

[Death Approaches]

Dude there's lots of 6700xt people complaining in that protondb - did you try any of their suggestions? I saw one guy saying he was getting low utilization and went with skipping vulkan and did mesa w/ RADV? AMD_VULKAN_ICD=RADV %command% Is that a feasible test?

Also not sure I would trust all of those, this is the internet afterall, there's someone with a 6600xt saying he's getting 50s on a 3840x1440 ultawide which I find a bit dubious compared to what others get, unless it's actually on Low with all rt and fidelityfx off and he just forgot.

Well, re: Windows, I mean we know this - It's not even supported as of yet with Valve proton, and 7.x GE builds won't even start without tweaks, so if you can/ are willing to VM with baremetal level hypervisor or just reboot into any native Win64 environment, it's probably a best-case-scenario, considering how much effort goes into the windows gaming world vs the linux one which is arguably just steam & gog.

[simcye]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

Dude there's lots of 6700xt people complaining in that protondb - did you try any of their suggestions? I saw one guy saying he was getting low utilization and went with skipping vulkan and did mesa w/ RADV? AMD_VULKAN_ICD=RADV %command% Is that a feasible test?

Also not sure I would trust all of those, this is the internet afterall, there's someone with a 6600xt saying he's getting 50s on a 3840x1440 ultawide which I find a bit dubious compared to what others get, unless it's actually on Low with all rt and fidelityfx off and he just forgot.

Well, re: Windows, I mean we know this - It's not even supported as of yet with Valve proton, and 7.x GE builds won't even start without tweaks, so if you can/ are willing to VM with baremetal level hypervisor or just reboot into any native Win64 environment, it's probably a best-case-scenario, considering how much effort goes into the windows gaming world vs the linux one which is arguably just steam & gog.

I've tried those launch commands but it doesn't work. for now I just live with having to dual boot. with how good proton has gotten I really don't have to dual boot much unless I want to play battlefield or cp2077 or modded skyrim/fallout

[simcye]

NECRO:
ok so "native" steam is the problem, using the flatpak version I get waaaaayyyy more FPS

[Death Approaches]

Yeah, no.

Seriously glad you're having a better time, but I need to correct your information. You might not be doing it intentionally, you might not even know. This is not what "fixed" you, but if you updated/downgraded the Steam client for linux shoudl have little effect... however if you updated your system, kernel, GPU driver, etc. maybe you accidentally "fixed it".

See, even if you got a flatpak Steam client for linux, proton is not installed that way, proton is inside your Steam library just like a regular game/app/tool install. Before proton snapshots into compatdata/ folder for your wine game to run then put on the post-install protonfixes for a particular game, it has to be installed under steamapps/common/<app_id>... for example just as Cyberpunk 2077 itself is Steam AppID 1091500, Proton 6.3 is 1580130, Proton 7.0 is 1887720, and Proton Experimental is 1493710.

I highly doubt the Steam client running native or via flatpak has anything to do with your Cy77 + proton experience.

But again glad it's working better for you!

[simcye]

I totally wiped the native steam install and I still had the same issues, even with GE proton. flatpak totally fixed it