2.0 car handling is still horrendously bad and needs serious improvement

[yolomancer]

I'm pretty good at driving and in racing games, saints row, GTA, f-zero, freaking podracer for the n64, burnout, NFS, whatever

It's not like I'm some AMAZING racing game player, but never in my life have I ever encountered vehicle controls that are on this level of bad

The massive oversteering or the ridiculously nonsensical understeering make the racing sidequest unbearable

How is it that my vehicle is sliding as if I am moving too fast to control, but I'm only moving at 15 mph and JUST starting to accelerate?

You can't drift at all in the cars, they MASSIVELY over steer and you end up doing a full 180, even if you brake HARD

If you try to flick the stick to make the turn and then ride out the momentum with the brake, they also understeer so massively, it's like there is no in between at all

There simply is no conceivable way that steering this made could have made the green light for this patch, I wouldn't even say it's better on cars, it's just a different flavor of terrible

Not one person I know uses the cars, everyone including me uses the motorcycles. I thought that this was ONLY because of the fact that cycles can go between cars, and while this might be true for me I can clearly see that even if you put the traffic density aside, the cars simply have controls that are so dreadful it's no wonder nobody wants to use them

I just downloaded a mod that only marginally helped, but seriously CDPR you need to fix the driving controls, they are pretty much unusable. It's like trying to run on ice in a zelda game, extremely floaty, no weight, the steering being too harsh or not enough makes no sense, it's pretty much impossible to drift intuitively, and you make that a requirement to win the race or escape the cops, so obviously we need to be able to do that

But the cars handling is so terrible that doing what needs to be done is basically impossible, or it's done in a way that is so terribly designed that it's not even a little bit intuitive, there's no reason I should have a dozen games in this genre under my belt and be an expert at driving fast in this genre only to have to spend 20+ tries to even complete the stupid racing sidequest because the cars feel like they have no treads left at all or the tires are covered in a layer of black ice, seriously

[Kisama]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Chaosolous:

It's the way it is, improve your skills within this skill economy or mod it out. Those are your only options beyond an uninstall. CDPR doesn't read the threads here and I don't blame them.

Thank god they don't because people are outing my Knife builds as op.

[V]

i had issues with the driving aswell, untill i lowered the steering sensitivity in control options.

[Rex Smashington]

Hopefully whatever the final update is before they stop doing updates they make vehicles more realistic. Anything other than the Caliburn feels like a boat floating on water. The Caliburn doesn't even feel semi realistic. It just feels less ♥♥♥♥♥♥ than the rest, so good by comparison.

GTA V for having been released a decade ago still has 10x better vehicle handling.

But I'm willing to give CDPR a break on it because this is their first GTA-like game and Rockstar has been making the same game for over 20 years. GTA 3 vehicle handling was floaty as hell. They eventually figured it out, so hopefully CDPR does too if they do another game like this.

[Izzy]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rex Smashington:

Hopefully whatever the final update is before they stop doing updates they make vehicles more realistic. Anything other than the Caliburn feels like a boat floating on water. The Caliburn doesn't even feel semi realistic. It just feels less ♥♥♥♥♥♥ than the rest, so good by comparison.

GTA V for having been released a decade ago still has 10x better vehicle handling.

But I'm willing to give CDPR a break on it because this is their first GTA-like game and Rockstar has been making the same game for over 20 years. GTA 3 vehicle handling was floaty as hell. They eventually figured it out, so hopefully CDPR does too if they do another game like this.

Bro is actually delusional. GTA V's car handling is hot garbage compared to CP77's current car handling. And thats coming from a person who spent a lot of time in GTA Online. Have you ever played Watch Dogs, for example? Now that game has some real ♥♥♥♥ handling.

[Caladian]

Some cars have better handling than others. Do I think the others needs a slight tweak? Sure. That being said, the car handling is so much better than previously and especially compared to GTA, that I don't feel I need a mod. Can I go 200mph around corners? No, and nor I shouldn't. I don't slide much anymore even with the cars notorious for it, and I use mouse/keyboard to drive.

[Pepster]

I unironically am going to say, sounds like a skill issue
jokes aside
I really do like how the cars handle

[cyäegha]

GTA4 is literally the only GTA title that had anything approaching a good handling model, and using saints row as any kind of barometer by which to judge the quality of a handling model should automatically disqualify you from having input on any discussion about vehicle physics

that, and unironically claiming to be good at "driving and in racing games" - while simultaneously calling yourself both an 'expert' and "not.. some kind of AMAZING racing game player", make up your damn mind - opens you up to another form of criticism that basically makes any attempt to address your actual argument superfluous
it's called 'you're not as good as you think you are', or more succinctly, a "skill issue"

[Anubis [NoeS]]

i find it pretty easy driving with keyboard (but then i did that in 1.0 where i got a lot of practice,if you can drive well in 1.0 with a keyboard you can drive amazingly in 2.0 wile watching a show on your 2nd screen it's just that much easier)

cars don't want to drift just accept this keep the rear under control and brake before turning.

i've had 0 issue's with 99.9% of the cars i have driven/stolen in 2.0 (there was 1 where as soon as hit the brakes the rear just swung by....but 3 other's of the same model were just fine....was a weird bug or maybe a tire was shot out...i don't know is that even a thing?)

[theandroids]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ★REM★:

Still don't understand why people is concerned about drive handling you can easy fix with mods. Even if you don't want to use mods, car driving is 1% of the game.

1% lmao Stop trolling.

[theandroids]

You are 100% right. I think the people telling you it's a "skill issue" are just bad drivers and can't tell the difference. The handling is 100% horrendous. Dare I say some cars handled better on release.

[The Shaver]

As someone that rides Motorcycles IRL this is BY FAR the worst iteration of Motorcycles in the last 20+ years of AAA Games.

Those that say its fine A) use the bus IRL or B) want to troll wich i kinda respect actually.

Cars, while also hideous, are not as bad as bikes. But still worse then most early 2000's games. Not even realisticly worse. Just bad.

[adema066]

Diposting pertama kali oleh theandroids:

You are 100% right. I think the people telling you it's a "skill issue" are just bad drivers and can't tell the difference. The handling is 100% horrendous. Dare I say some cars handled better on release.

Yeah, 2.0 destroyed driving entirely. I can start from stopped with some cars and barely press to accelerate and launch into a boat spin 180/360.. totally normal, right? Lol. I don't know how skill changes me pressing one button slightly and the car goes crazy, lol. More than half the cars in the game are so poor at handling, I won't even touch them unless forced.

[incendito]

You could always try sticking to the speed limit xD

[Silentghost]

Diposting pertama kali oleh yolomancer:

Diposting pertama kali oleh weiss:

i recommend you to drive with a controller.
when ever i was flying something in GTA 5 switched i always to controller because flying with mouse and keyboard is HORRIBLE. tho granted, it might be annoying to do this since ya drive relatively often in cyberpunk xD vs flying in GTA 5.

I am driving with a controller, the issue isn't the control scheme but there's just something terribly wrong with how the cars handle. Somehow they act as if they weigh virtually nothing and weigh 50 tons at the same time. Somehow they also act as if they are moving uncontrollably fast while moving at 5 mph at the same time. The massive oversteering and understeering.

For example, if you try to take a corner using a brake turn and you tilt the stick say 45 degrees left while braking and then accelerating, you will turn a full 360 degrees and fly completely out of control while going even 30 mph.

But if you try the same maneuver but tilt the stick say 25 degrees you will somehow totally understeer and barely move even 10 degrees to the left and ram into a building because you basically didn't make the turn at all.

How is a 20 degree difference make a 290% difference in the turn? It makes no sense. The controls are clearly off.

Yes I played the game in 1.0 but the cars were also so bad I only used them like twice or whatever the minimum is and always used motorcycles. Just because it was a 1 out of 10 back in the day doesn't mean it isn't a 2 out of 10 now. It's still horrendously bad.

As an experienced sim racer and gamer the OP is right this has by FAR the worst driving physics i have EVER seen in a major release within the last 20 years, GTA3's driving experience is more refined than this.
You are not driving cars in this game they bear NO resemblance to any real world physics every time i get in a car in CP2077 my brain overlays some sort of hitbox? instead of a car. CDPR should actually be ashamed.

[mcdcecil]

I think the driving is great, not easy. Now i actually crack up while playing the traffic is calm...make a mistake.. things start to go haywire... try to keep it under control... you make a mistake and drive over to many pedestrians now the cops are on your a ss Run for it and get away. Ahh