Cyberpunk 2077

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Hex: Boon Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:16am
Is V Canon
Everytime I look online it's about if V has a ♥♥♥♥ or not in canon. Is V a canon Solo in the cyberpunk setting?

Do they Kill or at least defeat Adam?
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Hex: Boon Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by knossos:
I don't know who is the authority to decide that, but I'd believe there is one cannon ending that's what they usually do in Forgotten realms for instance.
Mike did help with the writing right? I assume it would be up to him but if V is canon they are super OP
EricHVela Oct 12, 2023 @ 7:33am 
2020 canon ended up with a single Red (2045) canon that ended up with a single 2077 canon which altered the Red canon. Johnny died in Red canon, full stop—likely killed by Smasher but definitely incinerated in the blast. Yet, it went down in a slightly different way in 2077 canon... in a way that didn't really contradict Red.

No clue what's going to happen to V in canon. If V goes all road warrior, V's fame ends and the memory fades away. If V takes over Afterlife, V lives forever in one form or another and never fades away.

Will Adam Smasher be dead? I'm certain he'll be dead, but how he died will be up for the increasingly-blurring lens of history to decide. Did V kill him or leave him defeated but alive? He's more machine than man, a cyberpsycho, a zero score in his empathy stat caused by way too much chrome. (TTRPG rules.) His usefulness to corps is no longer a thing once he's defeated even if left alive, and well... in 2077, Cpsychos are dealt with in a singular manner (unless V is able to get to them before MAXTAC or C-SWAT gets to them).

If V went off into the Stars, nobody will remember who took down Smasher or how. If V took over Afterlife, V's glory days will be laced with embellishments galore, and the truth will be anyone's guess. (It was for Johnny from Red moving into 2077.)

So, there will be some things set in stone and some things revised, but V's story hinges on one thing: lasting fame.
Last edited by EricHVela; Oct 12, 2023 @ 7:38am
EricHVela Oct 12, 2023 @ 7:42am 
THEN, there's the PL ending. V also fades away but many of the defining moments at the end of 2077's campaign just never happen.

Maybe 2077 is Night City's final story, and the next one will pick up somewhere else. Night City isn't the only place. Several others are mentioned throughout the course of the campaign. That way, V's ending makes no difference to the future of CP.
Last edited by EricHVela; Oct 12, 2023 @ 7:43am
Goran Oct 12, 2023 @ 10:40am 
If we send Songbird to the moon, can we countine finishing the game by blowing up Arasaka and chosing one of the pre 2.0 endings? Didnt try that but I would like to.
EM-10 Oct 12, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
2020 canon ended up with a single Red (2045) canon that ended up with a single 2077 canon which altered the Red canon. Johnny died in Red canon, full stop—likely killed by Smasher but definitely incinerated in the blast. Yet, it went down in a slightly different way in 2077 canon... in a way that didn't really contradict Red.

Just want to chime in at this. Mike Pondsmith and CDPR have both said and agreed that Johnny's Engram in 2077 is an unreliable narrator. In particular, Mike Pondsmith has said that Johnny's engram was corrupted by the radiation from the 'Saka nuke going off.

In the account of the 'Saka Bombing in Cyberpunk RED, Spider Murphy slots a dataslug she got from Alt into Johnny as Johnny is laying there unconscious and dying. She goes to get her network suitcase (Which she used to send pieces of Alt onto the net) but it's gone.

Afterward, Johnny's body is recovered by a Borg firefighter who was a Samurai fan. She also finds a Nuke that Arasaka had at the bottom of the tower and she takes the nuclear device out and puts Johnny's body in the case. Eventually, Arasaka sends a squad to hunt down their missing nuke, and when they open the case they find Johnny's body. Since she also has possession of Johnny's Malorian and Johnny's Porsche, it's reasonable to assume that Adam Smasher was apart of the job to track the missing "Saka nuke, since Smasher is later in possession of Johnny's Porsche.

In this instance, Johnny's Engram would end up recovered by Arasaka (since it is heavily implied that Spider Murphy used Alt's soulkiller on him as he was dying), but because of the corruption of data Johnny thinks Arasaka did him with Soulkiller. Pondsmith has also said that Cyberpunk RED and Cyberpunk 2077 are all aligned canonically wise.

Aside from that, Pondsmith has basically said that he and his guys are in control of everything up until 2060 and after 2060 CD Projekt Red is responsible for the story.
Vault Traveler Oct 12, 2023 @ 3:11pm 
Basically the same as witcher, neither the books nor the real life adaptations nor the game are really match, they all have their creative liberties.
Hex: Boon Oct 13, 2023 @ 5:20am 
So basically what I consider canon is Blackhand set the bomb, Adam cuts Johnny in half with a shotgun.
I'm guessing Johnny just remembers it differently as he is a super ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who thinks lots of himself.

All that makes sense to me, it could be canon and still make sense with very little hand waving like the reason its not clear how V killed Adam or what happened with So Mi and the president is because they never really told it before they died so it just became rumour.
Its just that if it is Canon V is really crazy strong, Kill Adam Smasher strong, take down Arasaka strong, cross the blackwall strong.
EricHVela Oct 13, 2023 @ 6:50am 
It was all a schizoid dream of Johnny as a Cyberpsycho. Everyone slaughtered by the player was an innocent, and V was an alternate personality of Johnny who was far too over-chromed.

V never really existed! *gasp* (dramatic chipmunk meme)
Hex: Boon Oct 13, 2023 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by EricHVela:
It was all a schizoid dream of Johnny as a Cyberpsycho. Everyone slaughtered by the player was an innocent, and V was an alternate personality of Johnny who was far too over-chromed.

V never really existed! *gasp* (dramatic chipmunk meme)
It was a BD all along
EricHVela Oct 13, 2023 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by The Axolotl:
Originally posted by EricHVela:
It was all a schizoid dream of Johnny as a Cyberpsycho. Everyone slaughtered by the player was an innocent, and V was an alternate personality of Johnny who was far too over-chromed.

V never really existed! *gasp* (dramatic chipmunk meme)
It was a BD all along
The first interactive BD! A free-roam non-linear BD experience!

...and it was the development version the player was experiencing. They took the editor interface and expanded on it, incorporating shackled generative algorithms to interact with the BDer.

Unfortunately, it caused extreme schizophrenia in the test subjects. A series of people exhibiting complete cyberpsychosis symptoms with barely any chrome started to show up in New Barcelona.

A young chrome-less orphan, who had gone missing, returned and claimed to be someone named "V" (and, occasionally, "Johnny"), speaking to people who weren't there and randomly acting hostile and pretending to brandish invisible weapons. The use of medicines only agitated the situation. The child is now a permanent (and permanently sedated) resident of el Instituto Mensalus, which occasionally results in mumblings about leaving Night City (assumed to be the city on the West Coast of the USA), heading to limited number of specific places in different ways.
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Date Posted: Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:16am
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